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Old 08-21-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default "Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"

Posted By: davidcycleback

This card has been offered for sale many times over the past few years. This card was originally offered on eBay, and the card was universally labelled a fake, and the card was removed by eBay. There was no indication anywhere of the seller's race. It was AFTER the auction that there was the Cincinnati newspaper had an article with pictures of the owners.

Read the Cincinnati Post article yourself. It is the FIRST time the owner's pictures were ever published and the FIRST time the hobby had any knowledge of the seller's race. In the article, it mentions that eBay had EARLIER pulled the auction. In the article, Bill Mastro says he said (PAST TENSE) the card a reprint. Presumably, Mastro had not seen pictures of the owners at the time, as the article and photos wasn't published until AFTER his statement.

Thus, the card was widely judged a fake and eBay had pulled the auction BEFORE the hobby had any knowledge or inkling of the seller's race, and, thus, was not influenced by race.

Even a NY Daily News writer should be able to figure out that the stuff in the Cincinnati article had to have happened BEFORE the article and photos were published. And, if the publication of the article was the FIRST time the owners' race was identified, then the events described in the very article happened BEFORE the hobby knew the owners' race.

All a logical, inteligent person has to do to make a judgment is to mark down the Cincinnati newspaper article pubication date on a calendar, and know that the events that happened before that date happened without knowledge of the sellers' race. I won't make judgment for others, but if one is to plot the events on the calendar, I suspect one will judge that the card was treated remarkably similarly by the hobby before and after the publication date. For example, eBay cancelled the auction of the card after the publication date, but they also cancelled the auction of the same card more than once before the date. People labelled the card a fake after the publication date, but people labelled the same card a fake before the pubication date. In these two examples at least, the hobby reaction appears unaffected by newfounded knowledge of race. Whether the reaction is positive or negative or right or wrong, if the hobby reaction did not change with the identification of the sellers' race, it's darn tough to argue that the identification of the sellers' race changed hobby reaction.

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