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Old 01-24-2013, 02:03 PM
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Default Regarding the SOVEREIGN "apple green" back phenomena....some interesting stuff

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Pictured here are the three printing phases of the Joe Doyle card. The Nat'l error card (only 8 have been confirmed) exists only with the PIEDMONT 350 back. American
Lithographic (ALC) first printed the PIEDMONT backs; and, an observant employee at ALC spotted the Nat'l mistake on the Doyle caption. So, ALC quickly stopped print-
ing of this card. And probabably discarded most of them. However, a few of these cards did get into circulation. How many, we may never know.

The card in the center is an interim version which has a "printer's mark" exactly aligned with the leftmost serif of the N of the error card. This printer's mark is apparently
the result of a hasty attempt to remove the Nat'l lettering from the printing plate. A survey was originated back in June 2007 (and has been updated since). It indicates
that 7.3 % of the Doyle cards are found with this printer's mark. Most of these cards are PIEDMONT's. To a lesser extent, this printer's mark is found on SWEET CAPORAL
cards. And, 1 (or 2) OLD MILL and POLAR BEAR Joe Doyle cards have been found with this printer's mark. No EPDG or TOLSTOI Joe Doyle cards have yet been found with
this printer's mark. For the original thread on this printer's mark, check-out..... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...slow+joe+doyle


........................ PIEDMONT 350 (only) ............................................... PIEDMONT 350 .......................................... SOVEREIGN 350

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I have 4 - SOVEREIGN Joe Doyle cards; and, I have seen 8 other ones. None have been found with the printer's mark. And, I do not expect that any will be found.
The SOVEREIGN apple green press runs occurred in a later phase of the printing runs (circa Summer/Fall 1910).





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TED Z

The following is an UPDATE of the survey I started regarding the Joe Doyle printer's mark in June 2007. The current numbers reflect that 7.3 % of the Joe Doyle cards
sampled have this printer's mark.

UPDATED as of Jan 23, 2013


T-brand.............Mark.....No-Mark

Piedmont 350........10...........84

Sweet Cap 350.......6..........115

Polar Bear..............2............17

Old Mill..................1.............6

Sovereign 350.........0...........12

Tolstoi...................0.............4

EPDG.....................0.............1
.
Unknown back.........0.............2
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Totals................. 19 ........ 241


If anyone on this forum has not previously reported their Joe Doyle card with/without this printer's mark, we would like to hear from you.

And, please identify the T-brand back of your card.
The survey continues.


Thanks,

TED Z
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