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dan mckeeThanks guys, hell I should have known that! I search google and yahoo constantly for CICS and XML abends. Yes my stupidity must be a 10 as carew4you stated in another post! Rob and Jerry, any chance of working this out even though it has been awhile? How about a split down the middle? Just a suggestion, I don't like to see 2 decent people fighting. Almost like me and PSA, oh, I said 2 decent people! sorry Joe.