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Originally Posted by rats60
Cain has the highest dWAR in the NL, kind of like Trammell having a similar WAR to Jeter. People don't care about Cain because they don't care about defense.
Even using OPS+ Jeter was significantly better than Trammell. He was 5% higher over a career of more than 3200 extra plate appearances. His slash numbers across the board were 25 points higher. Jeter only had one season below league average, at age 36. How is that accumulating stats? Any team would take a middle infielder who was an above average hitter. At age 36, Trammell was done as a regular. During his prime, Trammell was below average 7 of 15 seasons where he played 100 + games. Jeter was consistantly very good through out his career and in the post season. He was much better offensively than Trammell, that is why he will be a 1st ballot Hofer and Trammell couldn't get elected in 15 tries.
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No, he wasn't "much better than Trammell." 110 or 111 OPS+ for Trammell, 115 OPS + for Jeter. Very nearly the same with regard to quality, with the difference due to different playing conditions and different eras. You simply confirmed what was stated earlier--Jeter was a quantitative compiler (neither remotely compares to Schmidt at 147 OPS+ or Foxx at 163 as an offensive player, and OPS correlates to run production at a rate in excess of 93%. Plus, as I recall, Schmidt won 10 gold gloves). But if you like him, buy him. Collecting should be individualistic fun for each of us. My concern is that to some, it exposes the hobby to ridicule when a 1993 card supposedly sells for $99,000, and rarer cards of substantially better players a mere fraction of that.
Highest regards in any even,
Larry