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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Yes. If not then the IBB that got converted because a batter swung would have gotten on base without a pitched ball.

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Originally Posted by MrSeven

The pitches associated with an intentional walk do count towards the pitchers total count. With the rule change in 2017, you can either signal for an intentional walk (which is what all teams pretty much do now) or still throw four intentional balls (like before 2017).

Some people are of the thought that the rule minimizes wear and tear on a pitcher from discouraging managers and players to try to pitch around a batter during an intentional walk.

That's what i thought. So if I was a young starting pitcher with a pitch count ceiling of 80, I would be relieved (due to fatigue) if I issued 20 intentional walks at the beginning of the game. If softballs lobbed for intentional walks are counted, why not count the pitches thrown in the bull pen. Just saying'.

Let's see another stupid question. No question is too stupid.