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Originally Posted by Runscott
Interesting that despite five 20-win seasons, Hunter averaged 16-12 over a 162 game season, and Hudson with one 20-win season, averaged 16-9. I don't consider Hunter to be HOF-worthy either, but their stats have some similarities. Their ERA's are 3.49 for Hudson and 3.26 for Hunter - not that much difference, and higher ERA's are more tolerated these days. Plus, many of you give players a bump for longevity (the Phil Niekro factor), so that would give Hudson an edge over Hunter.
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Your example kinda shows why pitcher wins are a lousy gauge of production as they are so linked to the quality of a player's team. Hudson was a worse pitcher than Hunter (tho not by a lot)but because both played on good teams they gathered a lot of wins. (Though it can be said that Catfish Hunter is one of those 'on the cusp" players in the HOF)