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Originally Posted by showtime
the reason the others don't grade them is because the plates and card stock for many years of the star sets were used well after the initial run. I don't remember the whole story but I do remember hearing the owner of star kept a lot of the unused card stock and plates for some time. at a future date either he or someone he gave them to ran off tons of freshly printed cards from numerous years of production. though they are not technically counterfeits since they are on the true card stock and from the original plates most collectors of the set are aware that the original run numbers are nowhere near what is actually out there now. most of us who collect them are aware it is very possible we have later printed runs in our sets. but I just like the look of the cards so I am content. I believe there was a lawsuit that brought put many people on the hook related to this. there were also current ebay sellers that were included. I believe bigboydsportscards or something to that effect was also included. many years ago I even bought complete unopened packs from him as he had a plethora of them. regardless of all the shadiness with them, I still love those cards. and the Jordan is definitely rarer than the 86 fleer but will never ever be recognized as the rc or be sought after by collectors as much.
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Your information is incorrect. The reprint/counterfeit rumor of the 1984 Star set was, and is, one of the biggest misconceptions in the hobby and has long since been proven to be a fallacy. The 1984 Star set and the MJ 101 XRC card was NEVER reprinted. Most knowledgeable collectors today who deal in high-end basketball cards know this. I would advise anyone who do not to read the following article published five years ago in which Steve Taft, the industry's foremost expert in Star Company cards was interviewed by the site JordanCards.com.
http://jordancards.com/blog/the-real...rt-steve-taft/
Taft is an original Star Co. dealer from the eighties. He is THE guy who worked with law enforcement and the lawyers of the NBA to bring down the Robert Levine / Home Shopping Network scandal. He is responsible for training Beckett, SCD, and GAI on how to authenticate genuine Star Co. issued cards and weed out the crap. Below is a more recent thread in which Taft commented.
http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread...31-page-1.html
And the current population numbers on the Star MJ 101 XRC supports all this and reflects the true rarity of the card. When compared to the 1986 Fleer, the pop report of the 1984 Star is not just low. It is ludicrously low. Using current, unbiased, real data from the pop reports of the Big 3 grading companies (PSA, BGS, SGC) will reveal the following eye-opening analysis:
1986 Fleer Jordan Total Pop = 14,655 + 7,920 + 1,431 = 24,006
1984 Star Jordan Total Pop = 384
24,006 vs. 384
That is an incredible 62 to 1 ratio. J
If PSA ever grades the card will explode like a "supernova". Think about all the collectors that will need one for their psa registered "set(s)".