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Old 08-11-2007, 10:10 AM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

All 49 cards......minus Rocky Graziano (#50)



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Old 08-14-2007, 01:59 PM
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Posted By: Jimmy

The main board has a great story about the Rockey Graziano card

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Old 08-20-2007, 06:37 PM
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Posted By: Randy SF

Could someone post a scan of the Rockey Graziano card? Does this card look like it belongs in the set? If I remember the last time I saw this card in a auction catalogue there was something about the card photo that did not match the rest of the set?

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Old 08-21-2007, 02:12 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I have closely looked at two actual cards of the Graziano in the past; and, I can tell you it's no different than the
other 49 cards in this Boxing set with respect to its front and back. It is card #50 and is printed on white cardboard,
as where all the other LEAF cards in the 1st press runs.

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Old 08-21-2007, 02:21 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

So there are only two known?

And assuming the Graziano had to be included on some of the sheets, do you know which player he replaced?

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Old 08-21-2007, 03:41 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

If you look at my uncut sheet, in the right lowermost corner is Arturo Godoy who, I've been told replaced Graziano on the sheet.
I am not sure if this is fact or a rumor; but, I was told this by a hobby veteran back in 1984 when I acquired my Boxing sheet.

I'm sure there are more than two Graziano cards, I've only seen two. There aren't too many more than that in circulation in the hobby.

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Old 08-22-2007, 06:56 PM
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Posted By: Anthony

I've got a friend that has the Graziano and I've seen it- it definitely looks like it was part of the set.
An argument could certainly be made about the '33 Lajoie not being part of that set design, and the Cobb/Cobb not being part of T206, but in my mind at least Graziano is definitely part of the Leaf set- an much rarer than either of the above named cards.

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Old 08-22-2007, 07:41 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

ANTHONY

I once said what you just said regarding this card and I was laughed at. However, I said it before the T206 Joe Doyle error
card was known. Now, I'd say the Graziano and the Doyle error card are equally the two rarest sportscards in the hobby.

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Old 08-22-2007, 09:16 PM
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Posted By: Anthony

There are lots of cards that only 1 example is known of- all the Allegheny's, just to name one. But of all the "blue chip" rarities the '32 ('33 actually) Lindstrom gets my vote for the rarest, with Graziano second. Doyle is a variation (as is Magie) and I'd put it a bit further done the list, but since I have no chance of owning any of these (except the Lajoie) my opinion doesn't mean squat.
Any way you look at it Graziano is very tough, hoping Adam will chime in with an estimate of known examples. I thought it was 5, but could be wrong.

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Old 08-23-2007, 06:02 AM
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ANTHONY

The number of 5 cards of the Leaf Graziano is very similar to what I have heard. If true, then this card is at the same level
of scarcity as the Joe Doyle error and the US Caramel Fred Lindstrom.....of which there are also less than 10 cards known.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

I can account for four of them. I've had the chance to look over one in person. Obviously a machine-cut card as issued. I don't think we are likely to see one offered for sale in the reasonably near future as every one I know of is owned by a rich collector who ain't selling.

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ADAM W

Did I understand you correctly.....One collector has all 4 of the Graziano cards that you know of ?

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Posted By: barrysloate

I feel fortunate to be one of the very few to handle a Lindstrom- I had it in my possession for several months until it sold. I can safely say I will never have another.

I think the Graziano suffers from not being that well known.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

I can account for four different cards.

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Posted By: Alan

One of the rare 1948 Leaf Rocky Graziano boxing card (PSA VG-EX 4) sold for $17,903 by Lelands in Dec 2001. I don't know who won it in that auction.

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