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How many COA's make an autograph real?
I have a question, how many COA's/opinions on an autograph before it becomes real? I have thought on it but want to know others because it interests me to know what a COA really means out there in the hobby? What is a COA? What does it accomplish? Is a COA worth anything? Does it give a false sense of security to those who don't know a particular autograph, for them to see a COA gives them what?
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pulling out of this one.
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oh boy...
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etc etc etc
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It's the gift that keeps on giving.
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Can you post the results of this same discussion from autograph planet, or are you only interested in the opinions on this issue from people that are not members of your site? For the record, the answer is zero.
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I lost all interest in collecting autographs as soon as I found out you could become a Forensic Document Examiner by taking an on-line course...
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exactly four and a half, no more and no less
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I don't think there are any items out there with multiple COA's.
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Now, STAT, ACE, Morales, etc, those certs always stand on their own.
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Are we talking COAs or COA's?
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4
Almost dead on but I don't trust the 'and a half' part- why was that last guy only 50% sure?...to be honest, I think I would prefer 4 rather than 4 1/2 so from my perspective, 4 is my magic number..or you can just use PSA, get one, and know 100% it's real! (I dont usually read the autograph forum but I assume this thread was posted as a pro PSA ad so I figured I would just lead us all right to it!)
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80% of all autographs are fake, and the other 20% might be fake...
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Welcome!
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Right on!
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Why would anyone answere such a stupid question?
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You can take a correspondence course for the educational value of it but that does not make you an FDE. An FDE needs to work in a lab and get formal training for 2 years before he can qualify. There is a self titled forensic handwriting examiner in our business named Frank Garo. He has admitted to me that he gave himself that title. The title has no meaning in the forensic business.
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I do have another answer. One Thousand Nine Hundred and Sixty-Three. The question is: How many worthless posts does Travis have out of 2011?
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It's called deflection. |
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I lost all interest when I found out Travis was involved....very involved
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2011
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(and it seems there are more now than ever, they crawl out from under rocks seemingly every other day, plucking dollars out of people's pockets)
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None. They are all real. Some might not be genuine, though...
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And, quite honestly, if I were ever going to "trust" someone to authenticate items, it would be someone who had a past history of working for a L.E. agency. I think someone with this type of history understands the consequences of falsifying documents, testifying under oath, the importance of being honest and truthful, etc... |
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The key word in my statement was "if" Shelly...
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I was just trying to take the if out of the equation.
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Now that would be a find,, a hobby FDE with those qualities.
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Here's my view: Travis is one of the good guys. He just doesn't know how to communicate his viewpoint in a way that anyone wants to listen. That's not such a bad thing, as anyone can learn how to listen better.
For what it's worth, I have asked Travis' opinion on boxing autographs and he's always been very cordial.
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I've heard rumors that there's one guy out there that's pretty honest; it's just a rumor though.......
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I have the same experience with him.
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That gets old quick, but his obsession (borderline insanity) can be entertaining at times, too. These message boards are a nice little slice of society and a hobby within a hobby.
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Yes, but the drama can also turn people off, in a spot where getting the best feeling that something has solid authenticity should be the main goal, be it via TPA, or self education
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What I have found out about this hobby from hanging out here on this forum is that there are a lot of good guys...they just don't all get along together.
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Dan, why would you say that
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I need to write a Rich's Ramblings
on some of the great hobby fist-fights and arguments I have seen in my years of collecting/dealing. Some of them have been freal beauts. Lou Avon vs Mike Bertolini never got past words but that is one I wish had. That would have been 1/2 ton of fun watching.
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If this is true then why are the arguments almost always the longest posts?
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True, Dan, but it makes for a lot of fun and interesting discussion.
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I say 'rare exceptions' because I have only found two people on this board that I simply can't talk to - I've apologized when I wasn't even in the wrong, but it had no effect. One of them is actually a super-decent guy - I can tell from his acts of kindness toward others. Oh well.
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never happened...
U must be confusing me with Mead....
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