Genuine 1972 Venezuelan?

[Jim65]

I know there are tons of fake 1972 Venezuelan stickers, are the common players counterfeited as well or just the stars?

How do these look?

[Cliff Bowman]

If they are from Gilberto of Venezuelancards on eBay they are counterfeit. All of his 1959-1968 Topps Venezuelans are legit (at least I hope so, I have been buying expensive 1959 Cubs from him), but his 1972's are no good. Whether he knows they are counterfeit or not is the question. ETA: Yes, commons were among the 1972 Venezuelan fakes.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

If they are from Gilberto of Venezuelancards on eBay they are counterfeit. All of his 1959-1968 Topps Venezuelans are legit (at least I hope so, I have been buying expensive 1959 Cubs from him), but his 1972's are no good. Whether he knows they are counterfeit or not is the question. ETA: Yes, commons were among the 1972 Venezuelan fakes.

Thanks, they are his.

I avoided buying '72 Venezuelans because its too hard for me to tell fakes, I think I am going put them on the "permamently avoid" list.

[sschauer]

Best way to tell is with a loupe the green under 10x will be dots on fakes and solid if real. Plus the fatter fonts are fakes.

[mrmopar]

Sudakis has no number. Is this a tell tale sign or were they all like that for his stamp?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

Sudakis has no number. Is this a tell tale sign or were they all like that for his stamp?

Good eye, here is a photo of an authentic 1972 Topps Venezuelan#169 Bill Sudakis. I know the fake Ron Santo is numbered #38, and the authentic Ron Santo is numbered #41.