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Old 02-24-2024, 10:02 AM
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Default Addie Joss T206 SBC card

Saw the beginning of Probstein's live auction yesterday and he was touting this Addie Joss card that was listed last night. I don't collect T cards but it's a pretty card.

He was saying that SBC was the predecessor to SGC. Can't recall seeing more than one or two SBC cards before. Just curious if this is accurate and what time period this would have been when SBC was grading card? Flip looks ancient. Would you have any concerns about SBC cards generally or this card in particular?

(Disclosure: not my card, don't know the consignor, and have no plans to buy it. The SBC angle just piqued my attention, and it's a nice card.)

No one can bitch at me for outing this, as we all know there is not a single person on the board who consider in a million years bidding in one of Rick's auctions.

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Old 02-24-2024, 10:13 AM
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Not the original SGC but I have heard of them previously

Sports Collectors Digest has a small blurb on them here :

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/c...sgc-dominating

they state that SBC was an acronym for Superlative Baseball Card Certification

Dont believe that this particular card would regrade at an 8.5 but it does appear to be quite nice.....

Yep - had to put a bid in on it
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Not the original SGC but I have heard of them previously

Sports Collectors Digest has a small blurb on them here :

https://sportscollectorsdigest.com/c...sgc-dominating

they state that SBC was an acronym for Superlative Baseball Card Certification

Dont believe that this particular card would regrade at an 8.5 but it does appear to be quite nice.....

Yep - had to put a bid in on it
Fun article. It was definitely nice to see that even Joe admits that grades are just an opinion, and cards at any given grade will not all be the same.
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Steve, it has long been my understanding that SBC was the predecessor to SGC. And, as I read it, the July 9, 2020, article in SCD that Lonnie references in his post above seems to confirm this, as follows: "Superlative Baseball Card Certification (SBC) was another one of the original card-grading companies in the 1980s ... SBC ended up selling to coin company NGC, which was owned by the guys who started SGC." I've had this one SBC slabbed card in my colection for as long as I can remember:
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Very cool.

Interesting to read about them.
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They were reputedly a quality company back in the early grading days. I bought this Gretzky rookie from them, and i do think they were a predecessor to SGC. Same numerical grading scheme, too.
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That's a really nice card, Val!
I am sure I have owned some SBC cards in the past. I don't remember if the grades were accurate, so they probably were. (or I would remember)


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