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Old 08-25-2010, 10:38 PM
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Default The evidence against Barry Halper is mounting

Wow...just wow. I think I'd question just about anything in that collection at this point.

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=798#more-798
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Interesting read Dan. I would have to agree with you....
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Legendary also stated that it had “destroy(ed) the paperwork that accompanied the jersey…” Those papers included letters of authenticity from Sotheby’s, Grey Flannel Authentication and Robert Lifson , a Halper associate who was lead consultant for the Sotheby’s sale.
big fan of destroying documentation...
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big fan of destroying documentation...
To be fair the documentation in this case was bad and they destroyed it so nobody else could use it as PROOF of it being genuine.
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Wow, my work won't be happy that I just spent a good amount of time reading that whole article, but I had to keep reading!

Sad to see some of these items likely are not real. It would be awesome to think these treasures have survived, but the evidence definitely seemed stacked against Halper.

It would be interesting to know whether Halper knew the truth, or if he was scammed on purchasing the items, but based on some of his inconsistencies (like the stories about Joe Jackson's widow and the former player who had Wilbert Robinson's jersey), it sounds like he wasn't the one being scammed in all of these cases...

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It would be interesting to know whether Halper knew the truth, or if he was scammed on purchasing the items, but based on some of his inconsistencies (like the stories about Joe Jackson's widow and the former player who had Wilbert Robinson's jersey), it sounds like he wasn't the one being scammed in all of these cases...
Anyone got a running list of "bad" items in this sale?
-Joe Jax jersey
-Wilbert Robinson jersey
-Ty Cobb's Shotgun
-Ty Cobb diaries
-possibly every single Ty Cobb item that originated from Al Stump?
-Radbourn and ?? (Forgot the other guy) cabinet photos in street clothes
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To be fair the documentation in this case was bad and they destroyed it so nobody else could use it as PROOF of it being genuine.
That can be done with red marker - destroying the documentation gets rid of any nasty paper trial that could be used as evidence.
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I agree with you. It destroys culpability. If an auction house was concerned with authentication, destroying the documents doesn't seem like a reasonable action to take. The auction house should issue its own set of papers labeling the item not authentic and should keep the original papers. If you destroy them, it makes it hard for a buyer to make his case for a refund.
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