Do you agree with PSA on this card?

[npa589]

I've had this card for a few months now and want anyone's opinion on it. Ya'll know a lot more than me. I've been in this for only 4 months.

I've compared its size with over 100 T206 cards that I have and have noticed a couple things. The Tinker is taller than some, and if it is taller, it is thinner by like 1/32nd of an inch. Many cards it is the same exact size from left to right, AND is taller. There are several that the Tinker is equal to, regarding top to bottom size, and there are only a few where the Tinker is actually shorter from top to bottom. There are many that the Tinker is the exact same size as.

Scans:

[milkit1]

to me it does look a bit short on the right side but its still a real nice card

[npa589]

I definitely agree with you on that. I've also compared it to 100s of other T206 cards, and it is the same size from left to right as a lot that received grades. It's also taller than most cards I have that have been given a grade.

I've looked at the corners/edges with microscopes, and I have a hard time finding evidence of a trim. Believe me, I'm actually trying to convince myself that it is "A".

BTW, there is nothing weird in the top left corner. That is all the scan. The corners are even sharper than they appear in the scan.

I wonder if this was submitted at too low a level, and the graders just assumed it had to have been trimmed. It's either an "A" or an 8.

[ChiefBenderForever]

Crack and resubmit, probably come back a 7 or 8 it happens all the time.

[Ladder7]

Nate, Looks a bit washed out. Alteration could be bleach or detergent.

[npa589]

Good point Steve. That's the one thing I think it could have been. I just can't see that it was trimmed. Though it may be a faulty argument, if I were to play devil's advocate to that thought, as I have done so already, I've thought that - if a card is this fresh or if it was simply a factory problem, than the washed out look could be attributed to the factory as versus recent human hands. I know there are plenty of cards that have weird coloring errors. So, if this was just a card that was printed at a slightly different size than other cards - then perhaps the coloring was different as well. I dunno.

Regardless, I've also thought that if the only thing that was done to it was a bleach job - I still have a heck of a card here if the corners/edges are this intact after 100 years.

I think ya'll are right though - crack and resubmit time. Might be the type of card I could crack and resubmit a few times.

Originally Posted by Ladder7

Nate, Looks a bit washed out. Alteration could be bleach or detergent.

[fkw]

Originally Posted by Ladder7

Nate, Looks a bit washed out. Alteration could be bleach or detergent.

I agree, Im thinking chemical soaked,...... or maybe recolored??

[novakjr]

It could just be the scan, but the top edger appears to be a little more crisp than the others. Anyways, altered could mean any number of things. Maybe the card was touched up, chemically cleaned? It may have even been pressed and then trimmed all around, so that it still met the size requirements. Hell, it may have simply been pressed so that the corners and edges looked better, without having to trim it. Those last two could be very hard to tell with it still being slabbed.

I'll go with the Chief on this one though, crack it and re-submit. What have you got to lose?

[npa589]

Thanks for the info - I never thought of it being pressed. Never really knew that as a possibility (I'm new to this to say the least).

I think it is definitely the scan. I might use my camera when I get home and put it on a picture hosting site so that you can see it in more detail.


Thanks for all the comments - much appreciated.

Nate

Originally Posted by novakjr

It could just be the scan, but the top edger appears to be a little more crisp than the others. Anyways, altered could mean any number of things. Maybe the card was touched up, chemically cleaned? It may have even been pressed and then trimmed all around, so that it still met the size requirements. Hell, it may have simply been pressed so that the corners and edges looked better, without having to trim it. Those last two could be very hard to tell with it still being slabbed.

I'll go with the Chief on this one though, crack it and re-submit. What have you got to lose?