New SGC Grading scale updates!!

[Leon]

I was asked to post this on behalf of SGC. I know nothing more than what is being posted here....best regards..LL

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With the National two weeks away now, we wanted to inform the collecting community of an important update to our grading system. Effective immediately, four new half grades will be available as part of the grading scale. The new grades are as follows:

• SGC 35 – 2.5 GOOD+
• SGC 45 – 3.5 VG+
• SGC 55 – 4.5 VG/EX+
• SGC 82 – 6.5 EX/NM+

For years, collectors have been asking for more options at the lower end of the scale where condition can vary greatly. These new half grades will serve to reward cards that are high-end for their grade with special attention paid to eye appeal. All cards submitted for grading will be eligible for half grades—there is no special process. Cards that are already graded by SGC may be submitted for review under any of the applicable grading fee tiers.

These grades are being added to round out the options available when it comes to assessing trading cards. They are not being added to complicate things for collectors. As such, the labels will remain the same so that consistency within a collection can be maintained and the 100 point scale will be preserved to avoid difficulties with the registry, the population reports, and other established areas.

We’ll be set up in the corporate area in Baltimore and encourage anyone attending to stop by and see how the new half grades present. As usual, on-site grading will be offered all week for raw cards, crossovers and reviews. Please feel free to call or e-mail us with any questions.

Thank you,

Sportscard Guaranty
800-742-9212




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[E93]

Seems like a great idea. There is a much wider range between grades at the lower ends. Makes sense. I am happy to hear they are doing this!

Personally, I think this would be a good time to drop the 100 point scale and just do 1-10 with the half grades. I know they put those on anyway. Why not just keep it simple and in line with what has become an industry standard for grading scales.
JimB

[glchen]

Sounds like a great idea also. Will there be any way to determine if a card has been graded before these new half grades came out or after? For example, for PSA, you could tell the pre-half grades since the grade and number were on the same line, but after-half grades, they were on separate lines.

[travrosty]

just like psa, just another opportunity to make more money by sending in cards you already had sent into them the first time, hoping to get a half grade bump, they will have 3/4 grades soon when they need more money.

[carrigansghost]

Just keep bitching about things that you do not have to do. Don't like a show on TV....Don't watch it. Don't like a new business in town...Don't go. If the collectors want this service, then OK use it. I find my time is better suited to trying to get people back to reality, than complaining about a new service.

Just for general info, I don't get things graded by anyone but me.

Rawn

[HRBAKER]

Is there a Net54 SGC Grading Special @ the National this year?
Maybe Half Price in honor of Half Grades?

[AndyG09]

Originally Posted by carrigansghost

Just keep bitching about things that you do not have to do. Don't like a show on TV....Don't watch it. Don't like a new business in town...Don't go. If the collectors want this service, then OK use it. I find my time is better suited to trying to get people back to reality, than complaining about a new service.

Well put, Rawn. I dig it.

Best,

Andy

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by carrigansghost

Just keep bitching about things that you do not have to do. Don't like a show on TV....Don't watch it. Don't like a new business in town...Don't go. If the collectors want this service, then OK use it. I find my time is better suited to trying to get people back to reality, than complaining about a new service.

Just for general info, I don't get things graded by anyone but me.

Rawn

I find it slightly ironic that you bitch about people bitching about things.

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by travrosty

just like psa, just another opportunity to make more money by sending in cards you already had sent into them the first time, hoping to get a half grade bump, they will have 3/4 grades soon when they need more money.

+1

[Davy_Kangaroo_Jones]

Originally Posted by travrosty

just like psa, just another opportunity to make more money by sending in cards you already had sent into them the first time, hoping to get a half grade bump, they will have 3/4 grades soon when they need more money.

This.

[E93]

Originally Posted by travrosty

just like psa, just another opportunity to make more money by sending in cards you already had sent into them the first time, hoping to get a half grade bump, they will have 3/4 grades soon when they need more money.

Other than cards where the difference in value between a 2 and 2.5 or 3 and 3.5 is substantial, I doubt there will be a whole lot of resubmits for half grades. I believe they were responding to collector requests.
JimB

[carrigansghost]

Well, Jason, I tend to comment on people that bitch about things constantly. I again state that I have not sent things to be graded and have no choice in grading companies.

Rawn

[3-2-count]

I personally could care less about the half grade system. Eye appeal trumps all regardless of the number that's typed on the flip by some monkey.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by E93

Other than cards where the difference in value between a 2 and 2.5 or 3 and 3.5 is substantial, I doubt there will be a whole lot of resubmits for half grades. I believe they were responding to collector requests.
JimB

Agreed with this. This change mainly affects cards at the lower end of the grading scale and I think most people aren't going to pay money to have their lower end cards re-evaluated. Assuming you get the bump, a half point grade probably won't make that much of a difference in the value of most cards (obviously there will be exceptions) in that grade range.

Yes, this was a response to customer requests. This is different than PSA's half grade implementation. PSA's half point change was profit driven. Their review special that immediately followed their new change proved that.

[t206hound]

Gonna make it tougher to get all forties

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Gonna make it tougher to get all forties

You're already sitting on a bunch of 45s, so you're actually going backward.

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Gonna make it tougher to get all forties

You might have to get all your 40's bumped up to 45's and finish off with all SGC 45's. I like 50's but since i buy only high end 50's, i probably have alot of 55's

[Bicem]

more false precision in my humble opinion.

[T206Collector]

I love SGC, but I agree there is no reason for this change. They started with a proverbial 100-point scale -- obviously they knew there was more room for detail from the get go. Why in 2012 does it suddenly make sense?

This is a rare move without substance that we seldom see from SGC. Hopefully it is not a portent of things to come.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Bicem

more false precision in my humble opinion.

+1

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Bicem

more false precision in my humble opinion.

+1

[Bocabirdman]

Show 100 people, who do not suffer from color-blindness, either an example of blue or an example of green and they likely will be able to identify the color correctly. Show the same 100 people a card starting with blue on the left side and morphing to green on the right. Ask them to pinpoint exactly where blue becomes green and you will get many different answers. The answers will be skewed by subjectivity. The extra grade options will offer the same results.