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Old 11-18-2009, 02:39 PM
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Default Rare Dauvray Cup medal for New York

During 1887 actress Helen Dauvray, who later married John Montgomery Ward, offered a trophy for the team that won the championship 3 years in a row. Detroit won in 1887 and New York won in 1888 and 1889.

Since the cup would always be held by the President of the winning club, she decided to give the players a medal that they could each keep. Beginning in 1887 medals would go to players on the team that won their first championship (of the 3 required to win the cup), as well as those players winning the championship for the third and last time.

The Hall of Fame has 3 Dauvray medals from Detroit players Dan Brouthers, Hardy Richardson, and Sam Thompson.

New York won in 1888 and 1889, so the NY players must have each received a medal for 1888. The HOF does not have any NY Dauvray medals, only Detroit.

Has anybody seen a Dauvray medal for an 1888 New York player?
Have any come up for auction?
If you find a picture of any New York medals please post them.
The back of the medals have the player's name and the position played.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:53 PM
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Hasn't the team Dauvaray Trophy been missing for years ? When was it last seen.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:04 PM
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The HOF believes there are no actual photos of the Dauvray cup.

Larry Bowman wrote an article in the National Pastime (don't know the issue date as I just have a photocopy).

He writes the following:
In 1893 Boston won the cup for a third time and was awarded permanent possession. A line drawing of the cup was printed in the Kansas City Star on October 8th, 1893. The cup then dropped out of the public eye and disappeared. The line drawing is the only likeness that I have found.

It appears the cup hasn't been seen in over 100 years.
At least a few of the Dauvray player medals survived and are in the HOF.
Just wondering if any New York medals survived.

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Paul: Here's a drawing of the Dauvary Cup from the Detroit Free Press on Sat June 18,1887 ( hope it shows up well on attachment).
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Thanks for the trophy picture.
I just learned that Hunt Auctions offered a few Detroit Dauvray medals a few years back, but no New York medals.
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Deacon Whites.....
http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...=859&lot_qual=

Lady Baldwins.....
http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...=210&lot_qual=
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Default Dauvray Cup, the Other Side

Attached is a depiction of the other side of the long-lost Dauvray Cup, from the The Atchison Daily Globe of June 9, 1887. Note that the silversmith, probably Gorham (so the design would be researchable!) elected to depict a scene from the Polo Grounds.


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Paul: Here's a drawing of the Dauvary Cup from the Detroit Free Press on Sat June 18,1887 ( hope it shows up well on attachment).
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Default Wow-- John Thorn!

For those not familiar with him; John is amongst the leading historians/writers of baseball history!

Welcome to the boards John and please chime in with those historical facts and notes whenever appropos!

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