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Old 09-15-2011, 03:31 PM
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Default Grade the graders

I am curious as to how we would grade the grading companies here. 10 being perfect and 1 being the worst. Of course the "a" for they are there but don't really count. Please feel free to elaborate or add others.

Here are my grades:

PSA 7
SGC 8.5
BGS 5
GAI 4
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Old 09-15-2011, 03:49 PM
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PSA N-4 Questionable Authenticity
SGC 9
BGS 5
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Old 09-16-2011, 03:53 PM
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PSA N-4 Questionable Authenticity
That's the funniest thing I've read all day, classic!
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Old 09-16-2011, 06:17 PM
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That's the funniest thing I've read all day, classic!
Based on some SGC goofs, the same thing could be said about them!
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Old 09-16-2011, 08:45 PM
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Based on some SGC goofs, the same thing could be said about them!
I'm not biased one way or the other. I stick to postwar stuff so it's almost all PSA graded. I just thought it was a funny comment no matter what grading company it was aimed at. Just sayin'.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:01 PM
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Default graders

When I first started collecting graded cards, Beckett was the choice, but as I got more experienced, I noticed most people were all about PSA and SGC when it came to pre-war. Although I came to like PSA, they are starting to majorly disappoint recently. A lot of cards with paper loss (and I mean massive loss) that are being graded B=VG to VG-EX...pathetic. So here are my opinions.

SGC=9
BGS/BVG=7
PSA=6

Because these are primarily the only grading companies I deal with, I will not grade the others...Beckett should get some props!
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PSA 2
SGC 3
BGS 0
GAI 0


At first I had Beckett a 1. But then I remembered that if they're doing all of their publishing and selling then they shouldn't be grading. I think they have a conflict of interest there, so I docked them 1 point for that... down to GAI's low level.

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Sgc-92

psa -6

bgs/bvg-6

gai - 2
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sgc - 7
bvg - 7 (liked their grading better when they had 4 sub categories, but i think they are doing better with authenticity now)
psa - 3
gai - 0 (might as well be raw from an untrusted source)
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thats a tough one because i feel all the major grading companies are a little more (keener) in certain areas than the others. for example i wouldnt have Sgc grade a 1989 ud griffey jr. rc or BGS grade anything pre-war just my preference. i had a yearly subsription once with PSA and for all that it is worth i would rather use VCP and grade elsewhere. here are my grades gai will get a DNQ (did not qualify) from me.

SGC (pre-war) 8
PSA (pre-war) 7
BGS (pre-war) 5

SGC (post war) 6
PSA (post war) 7.5
BGS (post war) 7

SGC (modern) 4
PSA (modern) 7
BGS (modern) 8.5

SGC (autographs) n/a
PSA (autographs) 7
BGS/JSA (autographs) 7.5
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Sgc - 3
psa - 3
bvg - 2
gai - 0
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GAI gets no love so far.
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SGC = 7
PSA = 5


bgs/bvg = 2.5
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PSA - 7.5
SGC - 5
BVG/BGS - 4 (Unless a Jordan rookie for BGS - then a 9)
GAI - 0
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Sgc-88
psa 6
bgs 8
bvg 5
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Psa 8
sgc 8
bgs 6
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Psa 8
sgc 1
bvg 7
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here are my grades for an average off the street collector having submitted the cards.
SGC 86 (with Derek 88/92)
PSA 6.5
BVG/BGS 3
GAI 1

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here are my grades for an average off the street collector having submitted the cards.
SGC 86 (with Derek 88/92)
PSA 6.5
BVG/BGS 3
GAI 1
Derek was specifically put on this earth to grade sports cards. In all seriousness, SGC has lately taken the "harsh grading is better" model. I don't want my cards harshly graded, I want them accurately graded.
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Just based off of my limited experience, and what I've seen...........

SGC- 9

BVG-8

PSA-4.5

GAI- 3 ( I've only had a few and they are all crossed to equal SGC grade or bumped up a grade)

The others........what others?
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SGC=9.0,BVG=8.0,I have no comment on PSA because I have no dealings with them.I have always received great service with SGC.The only thing holding me back from giving them a 10 is the fact that I have waited 5+ months for them to add a Ty Cobb player registry since my initial inquiry. I understand they are busy so its ok.

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Im telling you i could easily see that as vgex based on the scan im looking at. 4 is not ex its vgex.
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I was under the impression a qualifier knocked down a grade by 1...is this no longer the case? I have no vendetta here...no axe to grind...no fight to pick...to me...this card looks way overgraded...that's all...just my opinion. Carry on...nothing to see here.
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Asa-9
cta-9
pro-9
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