2012 Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards

[Runscott]

My apologies if the following has been addressed in other threads, but my searches didn't turn up anything.

I'm looking for a discussion or list of pricing issues;e.g-E90-1 Cobb, Joss throwing, T206 - 1st 150 commons. Also looking for discussions or list of any questions about the T205 or T206 prices or variations. If no one thinks there are any errors, or that any of the prices are out of line, that's fine - I just want to read any discussions on the topic.

Thanks, and thanks to Mr. Lemke for creating a separate book - I've been in a collecting hiatus for the last seven years, so just received mine and thoroughly enjoying it.

[Runscott]

Did I make a faux pas?

[ullmandds]

R U referring to the "2012" standard catalog?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

R U referring to the "2012" standard catalog?

Yes, the one that came out recently. Sorry about that - maybe that's why my question has been ignored.

[Runscott]

bump. c'mon guys - a little help here. I know there's got to be some thoughts on this. If it's a taboo subject, please PM.

Seriously, 206 people have read this thread and not one knows of any past discussions on the questions I asked?

[ullmandds]

I think most here would agree that the standard is a valuable reference for checklists and to help identify issues one is not familiar with...BUT...is not terribly useful for valuations of cards...as prices fluctuate on an almost daily basis. Past auctions and sales is the only really effective way to value a card at a given time.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I think most here would agree that the standard is a valuable reference for checklists and to help identify issues one is not familiar with...BUT...is not terribly useful for valuations of cards...as prices fluctuate on an almost daily basis. Past auctions and sales is the only really effective way to value a card at a given time.

Yes, that's always been true; however, it didn't stop us from having discussions.

[pgellis]

Maybe there's no discussion because not a lot of people have purchased the book yet. I collect only T206 so I don't really have a reason to purchase this book. Also, along with the "disappointment" in this edition, I believe a lot of people probably passed on purchasing this issue.

If you would like to discuss the pricing of T206 on this forum, why don't you post what you would like to discuss. I'm sure a lot of people would weigh in on it if it was right in front of them.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by pgellis

Maybe there's no discussion because not a lot of people have purchased the book yet. I collect only T206 so I don't really have a reason to purchase this book. Also, along with the "disappointment" in this edition, I believe a lot of people probably passed on purchasing this issue.

If you would like to discuss the pricing of T206 on this forum, why don't you post what you would like to discuss. I'm sure a lot of people would weigh in on it if it was right in front of them.

I did post - it was regarding the first 150 commons in the set. My guess is that a premium was being added for the ones with the '150' back. I also asked about two specific E90-1 cards. I know the market values of these two particular examples, but I thought it was strange that the book value was so out of line, and was requesting thoughts. It might be that some of you guys have time to study every card issue and memorize prices, but I'm not that far along yet - was hoping I could get some guidance as to which prices were accurate, and which ones to just cross out.

But you're right - I'll just start separate threads regarding the specific cards (or sets) I'm interested in and begin taking notes in my catalog. As mentioned previously, I thought there might be stuff posted already, and I simply did not want to re-hash the same old stuff and bore the hell out of everyone.

As is, that's what I've done anyway. Sorry about that.

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I did post - it was regarding the first 150 commons in the set. My guess is that a premium was being added for the ones with the '150' back. I also asked about two specific E90-1 cards. I know the market values of these two particular examples, but I thought it was strange that the book value was so out of line, and was requesting thoughts. It might be that some of you guys have time to study every card issue and memorize prices, but I'm not that far along yet - was hoping I could get some guidance as to which prices were accurate, and which ones to just cross out.

But you're right - I'll just start separate threads regarding the specific cards (or sets) I'm interested in and begin taking notes in my catalog. As mentioned previously, I thought there might be stuff posted already, and I simply did not want to re-hash the same old stuff and bore the hell out of everyone.

As is, that's what I've done anyway. Sorry about that.

My response to you was that many people (myself included) may not have the book yet, so unless you post what the prices are in your comments, how can we discuss whether the prices are out of line or not?

You would need to post what the prices in the book are for a bigger discussion to take place.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by pgellis

My response to you was that many people (myself included) may not have the book yet, so unless you post what the prices are in your comments, how can we discuss whether the prices are out of line or not?

You would need to post what the prices in the book are for a bigger discussion to take place.

Doh! Okay, I get it. Wow - how things have changed! Used to be everyone was dying to get this book. I have to tell you, I love mine, regardless of the inaccuracies - it's still very cool.

I'm farting off at the coffee shop at the moment, but I'll post some prices when I get back home - thanks for your response.

What do folks use in lieu of this catalog? Is everything online now?

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I'm looking for a discussion or list of pricing issues;e.g-E90-1 Cobb, Joss throwing, T206 - 1st 150 commons.

I've only been collecting t206 for two years, but this is the first I've heard that 150 series backs carry any premium. I sorta doubt the premiumn is noticeable.

As I said in my post above, I set myself a limit based on a combination of 2011 SCD, Beckett, and t206.org prices, (no premium for 150 backs in any of those) and collected 516 different t206's in similar grade (low good on average). Of those, 135 are series 150 backs.

I'd say that's pretty good proof that there is no "real" premium in that grade.

[ALR-bishop]

If SCD does not find a way to replace Bob L, it could be a long wait for that 2013 edition

[nebboy]

I to use the 2011 SCD for things seldom seen cards and for checklists.

E-Bay, and T206.org/T205.org and here for an general ideas on prices.
But of late everytime I try to use T206/5.org I get redirected to a soft porn celeb site that contains MANY viruses ect. Does this happen to anyone else?

As for things like the T205 SGC Wallace cap off, 1 line and harder to find info I always have a list together and when I really need it I just buy a 1 day subsribtion to VCP.

[dog*dirt]

I agree on using SCD for the checklist but as far as pricing goes it seems easier to just research past sales via the internet.

I also was also blocked trying to get to the T205-206 website, just a warning to those who may use that site.

Andrew

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by nebboy

I to use the 2011 SCD for things seldom seen cards and for checklists.

E-Bay, and T206.org/T205.org and here for an general ideas on prices.
But of late everytime I try to use T206/5.org I get redirected to a soft porn celeb site that contains MANY viruses ect. Does this happen to anyone else?

As for things like the T205 SGC Wallace cap off, 1 line and harder to find info I always have a list together and when I really need it I just buy a 1 day subsribtion to VCP.

I appreciate the responses and suggestions. I guess what I had forgotten was that in the past I built a wealth of knowledge about various issues simply by keeping an eye on the market - auctions, ebay, etc. This was gradual and took years. It's not possible to just jump back in and know the market immediately.

However, despite the negatives I've read here, it sounds like a VCP subscription will still help me get a jumpstart. Thanks.

[bunst]

I too had an issue with T206.org. Got a nasty Trojan virus that I could not get rid of myself. Took a professional 2 days to remove it and my wallet took a hit. Be careful even if you have the best antivirus software, which I did.