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Old 03-14-2017, 11:08 PM
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Been wanting to answer this one and saw an opportunity with Ed's question.

Yes, I am one of them. I have no bid retractions in the last 30 days but have 10 in the last 6 months. I did receive a warning from PWCC but shrugged it off since I hadn't retracted any bids with PWCC. I understand the warning and have been better.

2 reasons I have retracted bids:
1. Bid on 4 or 5 cards that I found out were reprints after bidding (very good fakes I might add)....this was after contacting seller
2. Simply wrote in the wrong amount such as $245 instead of $24.50

I get the concerns on bid retractions especially when they are associated to a single seller, but you have to have a little more basis for banning a buyer.

I currently bid on most t206 auctions that have low starting prices. I bid on virtually all of Brent's non-HOF listings which ended on Sunday, for example. I won 3 total auctions and was very happy about it.

Unfortunately bidding through your phone doesn't do a confirmation before placing the bid. Anyone who texts frequently knows that you go through the motions and continue on.....fast. Unfortunately I don't press the decimal sometimes and then I have to retract a bid. For those who haven't retracted bids, I will add that this is a valid reason for a bid retraction by eBay rules if outside of 12 hours of auction end. Plus if you still want to bid on the auction, your minimum bid has to be equal to your retracted bid.......so basically you are out of the auction.

There's more to it than a bid retraction.
I think you just confirmed that folks with bid retractions need to be eliminated from e-bay. Sooner the better. If PWCC allows you to bid, that's bull shit.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:23 PM
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I think you just confirmed that folks with bid retractions need to be eliminated from e-bay. Sooner the better. If PWCC allows you to bid, that's bull shit.
Completely disagree.
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Old 03-15-2017, 03:35 AM
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Hope you are not that careless in your other endeavors, whether you beg to differ or not
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:47 AM
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Since eBay doesn't do enough to get rid of buyers with multiple retractions, it's up to the sellers to take action.
If a buyer retracts a bid at one of my auctions and does not rebid, I block them immediately. If the retraction happens on the last day of the auction, I will call eBay and give them the buyer's userid. I was told to call in every time some one retracts without rebidding.

So, if other sellers would do the same thing, eventually we would get rid of some of these buyers.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:43 AM
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Since eBay doesn't do enough to get rid of buyers with multiple retractions, it's up to the sellers to take action.
If a buyer retracts a bid at one of my auctions and does not rebid, I block them immediately. If the retraction happens on the last day of the auction, I will call eBay and give them the buyer's userid. I was told to call in every time some one retracts without rebidding.

So, if other sellers would do the same thing, eventually we would get rid of some of these buyers.
This is a good point. I think sellers who do this should be much more aggressive about using it as a marketing point to buyers. Let us know you operate like this so we know your auctions are ones we can bid on with confidence.

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Old 03-15-2017, 07:15 AM
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I have recently begun to wonder if these 99 cent auctions are actually a good idea. Starting a 3k card at 99 cents is pretty silly if you think about it, and it just seems to encourage bad behavior - from buyers, sellers, and eBay.
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Old 03-15-2017, 07:25 AM
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I believe allows you to auto block people with Bid retractions over 4 within 6 months; I need to check what I have set up to be sure. But why wouldn't people just do that?
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In Ebay's site preference's there are seller preferences that will automatically block buyers based off your preferences. I am surprised that number of bid retractions isn't one of the options.

Here are the current options:
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Buyers without a PayPal account
Block buyers who don't have a PayPal account. (Note: This block only applies to future listings and can be disabled per item on the Sell Your Item form.)
This requirement can help you avoid Unpaid Items, as PayPal account holders have up to an 80% lower Unpaid Item rate.


Buyers with Unpaid Item strikes
Block bidders and buyers who have received (OPTION OF 2-5) Unpaid Item strike(s) within (OPTIONS OF 1, 6, OR 12) month(s)
This requirement can help you avoid bidders and buyers with a history of not paying for the items they have agreed to purchase.


Buyers in locations to which I don't ship
Block buyers whose primary shipping address is in a location I don't ship to.
This requirement can help you avoid buyers who agree to purchase your items without realizing you don't ship to their location.


Buyers with policy violation reports
Block buyers who have (OPTION OF 4-7) Policy violation report(s) within (OPTION OF 1 OR 6) month(s)
This requirement can help you block buyers who have been reported to have violated eBay policies.


Buyers with a negative feedback score
Block buyers who have a feedback score of (OPTION OF -1 TO -3) or lower
This requirement can help you avoid buyers who have received more negative than positive feedback from other eBay members bidding on your item.


Buyers who may bid on several of my items and not pay for them
Block buyers who are currently winning or have bought (oPTION OF 1-10,25,50,75, OR 100) of my items in the last 10 days.
Only apply this block to buyers who have a feedback score of (OPTION OF 0-5) or lower.
Consider selecting this requirement if you are selling expensive items and don't want to sell over a certain number to any single buyer. Learn more about how this requirement works.


Apply above settings to active and future listings.
Existing bids will not be affected.
Turbo Lister will pick up these settings after you sync each item with eBay. Third-party listing tools will pick up these settings after you synchronize the tools with eBay.

Don't allow blocked buyers to contact me. (Buyer won't see the "Contact Seller" button on your Q&A page.) Note: Buyers can still contact you about existing transactions, unless you add them to your blocked list.
Even with these options I have it set very tight and have seen that in recent days it has blocked 2 bidders
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Mar-12-17 * 525 ( 99.8%) Mar-25-03 322450530298 Too many Unpaid Item strikes
Mar-12-17 * 525 ( 99.8%) Mar-25-03 322450530298 Too many Unpaid Item strikes
Mar-13-17 * 2070 ( 100%) Oct-20-13 322450623947 Too many Unpaid Item strikes
Mar-13-17 * 2070 ( 100%) Oct-20-13 322450623947 Too many Unpaid Item strikes
I have my settings set to blocking anyone with 2 unpaid strikes in 12 months. My question is why are buyers with 2 unpaid strikes even still allowed on ebay. This falls into the same issue as bid retractions in my mind.
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I had never attempted until now to see bidder bid retractions in my own auctions (since I knew I wasn't consigning and I am not shilling my own auctions I never thought to). Just now I thought I would look at my current auctions and realized it wasn't as easy. Since I can see the user name of the high bidder it takes me to that bidder's account but doesn't show me their bidding history. I only see this information if I see the users asterisk version which I can only see if I log out and look at the auctions as a non seller. Does anyone see a quicker way for a logged in user to see this information?
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In Ebay's site preference's there are seller preferences that will automatically block buyers based off your preferences. I am surprised that number of bid retractions isn't one of the options.

Here are the current options:Even with these options I have it set very tight and have seen that in recent days it has blocked 2 bidders
I have my settings set to blocking anyone with 2 unpaid strikes in 12 months. My question is why are buyers with 2 unpaid strikes even still allowed on ebay. This falls into the same issue as bid retractions in my mind.
This is a good practice to follow. Again the seller can take some time out to use these setting to rid of delinquent buyers.
One of the options that baffles me is to block Buyers with negative feedback. How does a Buyer get a negative feedback? That went away a long time ago.
I think a buyer should be blocked with 1 unpaid strike. There is no reason that I can think of where you should not pay for an item that you won.
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