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Perhaps somewhere, Robert James Fischer is looking up (I assume) with contempt.
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I agree that chess at the highest levels may well be in trouble, especially insofar as public interest. It appears that championship matches henceforth may unfortunately always or nearly always be resolved by rapid or blitz games.
I'm disappointed that this match is not receiving more publicity given first American player since Fischer in '72. |
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No doubt Fischer is looking up. He earned his place in hell with his anti-semitic rants
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http://www.thestacksreader.com/the-day-bobby-blew-it/ A priceless line: He wears a business suit about as naturally as a python wears a necktie.
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Thanks, Peter. Good story.
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I know very little about chess, but I followed the game for a while just now and was disappointed to see Carlsen agree to a draw after just 31 moves when it seemed he was starting to press the attack and perhaps had an advantage. In the hour or more I followed it, I did not see a single piece captured. I assume that's unusual. Caruana just seemed to be making nothing moves hoping to survive, although I don't know enough to judge. I imagine by chess standards this was extremely boring and even pathetic. Certainly the posters commenting on the site I was watching were disgusted.
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The 12th and final game just ended in a draw.
With all due respect, the game started out sharply with both players fighting for a win. Fabiano had an early advantage, but let it slip as Magnus developed a very strong attack. He wavered a little, and then without warning offered Fabiano a draw. Apparently he actually said he would have a big advantage in the tiebreaker and expected to beat Caruana. Very strange ending for sure. Wednesday they play four games, 25 minutes each per player, and if that ends 2-2 they will play a long series of 5 minute blitz games until someone wins. In Carlsen's long career, he has never lost a tiebreaker. Wednesday should be interesting. |
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Like waiting 4 years for a Super Bowl game and it's decided in OT by a FG contest. |
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I was just watching the grandmasters moderating the match do an analysis of the position. In almost every line, Magnus had a winning game. Yet he decided to offer Fabiano a draw, when Fabiano was in very bad time pressure (which of course makes it harder to find a successful defense). None of them understood why he did not press on to victory.
When Carlsen was shown all his winning lines in the post game analysis, he apparently responded "I don't care." A great mystery to me. |
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Peter- I just noticed you posted the result a minute before me. Obviously we were typing at the same time.
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No doubt your analysis was far superior. I was just conveying my gut reaction.
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If Caruana were to win the tiebreaker, Magnus's decision to offer a draw will haunt him for a long time to come. If he wins it, it will soon be forgotten.
One thing I learned in this match is that Carlsen was a better player four or five years ago than he is now. Chess players can't stay at their peak forever, and while he is still arguably the strongest player in the world, the rest of the pack is gradually catching up. A 23 year old Magnus would have won this match handily. He is now pushing 28, and while still very young, he is in the early stages of his downswing. |
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Maybe he should join Ernie Ratelband's lawsuit in order to lower his age back to 23
This discussion is now getting depressing for old guys like me. |
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I'm 66 Al, and although I still love to play chess, the old noggin' doesn't always calculate as quickly and clearly as I would like.
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Though much is taken, much abides.
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His mental problems continued when the match started. He lost game one on a silly blunder, and forfeited game two when he refused to play. He claimed his chair was bugged with microphones, and there were cameras hidden in the florescent lights. His entourage thought he was having a breakdown and were ready to give up on the match. After a few days he calmed down, and when he sat down for game three he proceeded to play some of the best chess ever seen. Over the final nineteen games he won seven times and only lost once. That is an enormous margin for players of that caliber. It was also the last competitive chess he ever played. He never played another serious game for the rest of his life. Last edited by barrysloate; 11-27-2018 at 10:15 AM. |
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He was supposed to play Karpov in 1975 but his conditions were rejected.
He played Spassky in 1992. It was not for a title, but I think most people would consider it a serious match.
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The 1992 match was an exhibition and not sanctioned. Fischer was 49 and Spassky was in his mid-50's, and the chess they played was mediocre. It was also what got Fischer banned from ever returning to the United States. IIRC, it was played in Yugoslavia and Americans weren't allowed there. The whole match was kind of sad as it reminded Fischer's fans of how he wasted his talents.
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Magnus Carlsen won the first game of the tiebreaker and leads 1-0.
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Magnus Carlsen just won the second game and leads 2-0. This one was a bit of a steamroller. Carlsen only needs a draw in the final two games to retain his title.
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Carlsen won the third game and has retained his World Champion crown. My take is Caruana was unable to win even a single game, and Carlsen was undoubtedly the better player.
I am very disappointed with the result, but what can you do. I want to thank everyone who participated on this thread. As you may have noticed, I'm a chess junkie. I am also a big fan of Fabiano, and feel bad that he couldn't have played better. |
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What a difference a day makes. Complete domination of the rapids by Carlsen.
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Complete domination indeed.
The first game Caruana was behind but looked like he could draw. Then he missed a move and lost in the endgame. In the second game Caruana had a reasonable initiative and attack, but miscalculated and lost very quickly. Needing a win only in the third game, Caruana pressed for victory, but sometimes when you press too hard in an even position you lose. That is exactly what happened. Carlsen showed today, and throughout the match, that he is still the best player in the world, until proven otherwise. Last edited by barrysloate; 11-28-2018 at 12:27 PM. |
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Did a google search for 2020 World Chess Championship and couldn't find any results with any dates. Pretty much everything was "late 2020".
Does anyone know if this event will take place this year or if Corona will delay this as well? Seems like a type of event that could take place in a "bubble" and with other sports delayed, may get more attention than usual. |
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Barry - sorry I didn't participate in the thread when it was happening. At the time I was avoiding internet discussion forums, and it wouldn't have crossed my mind to check this one.
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