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We started noticing this a couple of years ago; you can look back and find other posts asking how Greg Morris cards get so much for raw ungraded. That's also a reason there are a few eBay resellers who do take lower graded PSA/SGC/BGS cards and crack and sell raw. Some of the buyers are just trying to put together clean raw sets, but many are trying to learn the grading game.
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I was observing this last night on a 1973 Topps Clemente that GMC had listed as NM/MT. The bidding was approaching $300 when a PSA 8 could be had for <$150. I gues it is the "hope" that the card could grade as a 9 or 10 that drives the frenzy. |
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I think GM cards is growing all the time as well, meaning more eyes are upon their auctions.
I know I have noticed this quite often when trying to acquire 52 Topps cards. Imo, there are reasons why some are leaving other auction houses and gravitating towards GM cards, and shipping fees are just one of them. With all my raw 52's, if I was ever thinking of consigning with someone, GM most likely would be the place.
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I have been happy with the cards I've purchased from GMC, the majority are 61 Topps. I generally only look at the NM-MT or better that are centered. It's tough getting any of those at a good price but I'm ok with that. Just have to watch out and not pay over PSA 8 prices. What I have found that I need to watch out for is that there are some cards that may have a fish eye, or some other minute defect but otherwise garners the grade they have listed.
I can also say that because of the positive experiences I've had with them I sent 700+ cards to be sold. I have about 450 listed that end this week so we'll see how it goes. I have no clue about the other 250 cards that didn't get listed but I'm sure I'll find out why. Now, I'm not judging one way or another and as a seller you typically think your cards grade higher than what you would as a buyer, lol. I do think some of my cards were listed at grades lower then they would receive at a tpg. But, that is also why they get the prices they do. My final "curiosity" is how much of the stuff they see is theirs and how much of it is actually consigned? No big deal either way, just curious because of the amount of high grade raw they have. |
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Amazing what a quality detailed scan can do. I think in this day in age of rushed, crappy cell phone quality pictures, they can and do sometimes stand out. I would never be able to sell raw cards like those for a fraction of the price of a PSA 7 or above, but good for the people who can.
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I agree. I recently bid on 75, trying not to go over psa 8 prices, and only won 6 cards.
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PWCC has gotten almost entirely out of the raw game. We all have different opinions, but I think it's pretty hard to argue that eBay isn't king when it comes to the overall hobby's preference for acquisition. It was only a matter of time before someone reputable stepped in to fill the raw niche. Whether it's raw collecors or treasure hunters looking for tpg gold, I have no idea....but likely a mix as has been mentioned. My point being that, as much as possible, taming the wild west of raw cards on eBay is a ripe opportunity for the right seller with the right reputation and marketing.
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I don't have 100% confidence but probably 90%. I agree that you have to look closely for print defects, and dinged corners. OC is readily apparent.
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I agree - GM is my go to for ungraded cards. I have purchased quite a few 52T cards from GM. There have been some listings they list as a lower grade and I ask why and they are very responsive to any questions you may have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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It's all about eye appeal which guides the final price. A nicely centered EX card may fetch more than an off-center Nrmt card.
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I get the same here in NJ from Probstein... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Unfortunately it will be the case everywhere, soon enough.
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I have noticed the same thing and yes, it’s crazy. IMHO, there is little way to really tell the true condition from an internet pic. There are so many cards in 7 holders that look like a 9 but they are not 9s because there is something the naked eye couldn’t see. There is too much risk in paying 200% of an 8 for a high dollar vintage card, especially if over the internet.
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