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I was 'lucky' enough to buy an early case of 1990 Donruss Baseball Wax. (I still have unopened variation boxes too). And by early I mean lots of boo-boo's.
Between that and the factory set, and searching eBay, I came close to what I think is a master set for me. Mind you, the dot thing is not on my radar. That has just gone way beyond any comprehension for me. Would you consider adding your list of variations and posting it here? I'd like to see how close or far away I am. I did not go into the pattern variations, Just stuck to what I was able to find in searches for the 90 Donruss variations. I ended up busting 6 boxes to make a set and then just recently got rid of all my dupes to clear weight for a move. So at least I contributed to reducing the OVER abundance of cards by maybe less than .00000000000001% Your cards just got magically more valuable by probably even less than that. : - ) I have considered busting some more but just have not taken that plunge yet. Regards, Butch
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You'll almost certainly still need numerous cards because for every fire they put out they created two more. So any single case, no matter how early, is going to be missing some key E&Vs. I know someone keeps telling people that the Baines All-Star with Line Through is only in the earliest cases. That's not true. I've opened numerous cases from numerous early dates and there were zero Baines Line Through. That card only shows up for one day in distribution and it's not the first days. Here is my current list of E&Vs for '90 Donruss. Each example confirmed with at least a second find from another case which came from another source, so they're all recurring. While I continue to leave it on the list, I'm dubious about the Bo Jackson DK. If anyone has a picture of one I'd love to see it. CARD # NAME VARIATION 1 Bo Jackson - Diamond King Redone "i" in Diamond Kings 3 Ruben Sierra - Diamond Kings No Line in Top Back Border 10 Brian Downing - Diamond Kings Reverse Negative on Front 11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings Space filled in with black bump 11 Kevin Mitchell - Diamond Kings White space in bottom right front border 15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings No Red Dot by Foot on Front 15 Ozzie Guillen - Diamond Kings Red Dot by Foot on Front 18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Bottom of 18 missing on back 18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front, full 18 on back 18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line on front & Bottom of 18 missing on back 18 Howard Johnson - Diamond Kings Normal 20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Errant dashed line by upper left border on front 20 Chris Bosio - Diamond Kings Normal 24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Fuzzy red line in DK banner 24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Normal 24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings Thin red line in DK banner 24 Pete O'Brien - Diamond Kings White line in DK banner 33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Reverse Negative w/ Blue Scratch Right of Hands 33 Juan Gonzalez - Rated Rookie Correct w/ Blue Scratch and Dragon Splotch Near Calf 67 Walt Weiss Break in stats border on back 67 Walt Weiss Normal 67 Walt Weiss Shimmer in right black line on back 71 Barry Larkin Broken Pepper Left of Eyes 71 Barry Larkin Red pepper left of eyes 71 Barry Larkin Skinny Pepper Left of Eyes 100 Checklist 28-125 100 Checklist 28-129 111 Roberto Alomar No Dot 111 Roberto Alomar White dot right of helmet 113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 22 113 Kelly Gruber DOB February 26 125 Jose Canseco Vertical Line Below OF on Front - Yellow 130 Hubie Brooks Circle on Thigh, Scratch Airbrushed Out 130 Hubie Brooks Circle on Thigh, Scratch by Left Foot 158 Greg Maddux Dot on line below 'M' on front 158 Greg Maddux No Dot 159 Andy Hawkins Airbrushed check mark 159 Andy Hawkins Check mark in upper left part of picture 168 Dale Murphy Half line through D 170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 19 170 Kirk McCaskill DOB April 9 173 B.J. Surhoff Red Splotch Above Helmet 173 B.J. Surhoff Red Splotch Removed 186 Rob Murphy Line through 'b' on front 186 Rob Murphy No Line 194 Darren Daulton Clean Negative 194 Darren Daulton Residual Paint on Negative Above Head 195 Alfredo Griffin Scratches Airbrushed Out 195 Alfredo Griffin Small Black Scratches Right of Bat 198 Paul O'Neill Paw Scratch Airbrushed Out 198 Paul O'Neill Red Paw Scratch Right of Helmet 198 Paul O'Neill Black Paw Scratch Right of Helmet 200 Checklist 126-233 200 Checklist 130-231 206 George Bell Closed loop 'G' 206 George Bell Open loop 'G' 214 Mike Moore No Dot 214 Mike Moore Yellow dot under Donruss on front 217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 20 217 Scott Garrelts DOB October 30 233 Eric Davis E' & 'r' joined 233 Eric Davis Normal 270 Gregg Jefferies Open loop 'G' & 'J' 287 Joe Orsulak Black mark left of belt (corrected?) 300 Checklist 224-321 300 Checklist 232-333 307 Duane Ward Full border 307 Duane Ward Line break on front bottom border 321 Jeff Hamilton Break in top line above team name 321 Jeff Hamilton Full Line 335 Jose Uribe Black dot left of bat 335 Jose Uribe Dots airbrushed out 335 Jose Uribe White dot left of bat 343 Kevin Brown "Signeed" in first line of bio (UER?) 347 Bip Roberts Line breaks B 365 Ken Griffey Jr Blank accent mark through card nuber and line 365 Ken Griffey Jr Break in front bottom border by left elbow 365 Ken Griffey Jr Full line 365 Ken Griffey Jr Green Eye (Factory Set only?) 368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 25 368 Kirk Gibson DOB May 28 378 Jamie Moyer No Dot 378 Jamie Moyer Yellow dot above 'I' on front 400 Checklist 322-419 400 Checklist 334-435 405 Sergio Valdez Line through S on front 405 Sergio Valdez Normal 406 Mark Williamson Black scratch below Orioles on front (corrected?) 408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch more white 408 Jeff Innis Upper right scratch mostly red 414 Trevor Wilson Red dot above glove 414 Trevor Wilson Red dot airbrushed out 424 Ken Caminiti Yellow dot right of name on front 425 David Wells Gap between leaf and border 425 David Wells Maple Leaf touches border 436 Gene Larkin Black Quotation Marks Right of Helmet 436 Gene Larkin Marks Airbrushed Out 471 Mackey Sasser Blue apostrophe left of eyes 471 Mackey Sasser Blue banana & Blue apostrophe 471 Mackey Sasser Blue banana above hip 498 Mike Macfarlane No Dot 498 Mike Macfarlane Pink dot on hat 500 Checklist 420-517 500 Checklist 436-537 523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1965 523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985 523 Andy Nezelek DOB 1985 with Dot Below 'A' on Front 542 Mark Portugal Bottom front line break left of 'M' 542 Mark Portugal Full line 562 Rick Luecken No Red Dot on Cap 562 Rick Luecken Red dot on cap 573 Lance Johnson Full Name 573 Lance Johnson Part of 'L' missing in name on front 583 Kevin Hickey Black line through 'K' 583 Kevin Hickey Normal Name 585 Jeff Pico Break in bottom line on front 585 Jeff Pico Full Line 595 Luis Quinones Black dot left of 'L' on front 595 Luis Quinones No Dot 600 Checklist 518-617 600 Checklist 538-639 602 Terry Kennedy No Paint 602 Terry Kennedy Painted Teammates in Dugout 619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line and on top border on front 619 Shawn Hillegas Break in bottom line on front 619 Shawn Hillegas Full line 624 Mark Lemke Black Feather Above Shoulder 624 Mark Lemke Feather Airbrushed Out 637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue Scratch with AS Game Performance on back 637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Blue Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Half Scratch with AS Game Performance on back 637 Terry Steinbach All-Star Half Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White Scratch with AS Game Performance on back 637 Terry Steinbach All-Star White Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 639 Jack Morris Black line through 'J' on front 639 Jack Morris Corrected 650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' Airbrushed Out w/ All-Star Performance on back 650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' Airbrushed Out w/ Recent ML Performance on back 650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' by Left Knee w/ All-Star Performance on back 650 Bo Jackson All-Star Circled 'T' by Left Knee w/ Recent ML Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Blue Scratch with AS Game Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Blue Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star No Scratch with AS Game Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star No Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Blue on Top - AS Game Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Blue on Top - Recent ML Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Red on Top - AS Game Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red & Blue Scratch with Red on Top - Recent ML Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red Scratch with AS Game Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star Red Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star White Scratch with All-Star Performance on back 654 Howard Johnson All-Star White Scratch with Recent ML Performance on back 660 Harold Baines Line behind star - All-Star Performance on back 660 Harold Baines Line behind star - Major League Performance on back 660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - All-Star Performance on back 660 Harold Baines Line in front of star - Major League Performance on back 662 Clint Zavaras Black line airbrushed out 662 Clint Zavaras Black line on nostril 663 Rick Reuschel All-Star Black streak in front left border with All-Star Game Performance on back 663 Rick Reuschel All-Star Black streak in front left border with Recent ML Game Performance on back 663 Rick Reuschel All-Star No Black Streak in Border, All-Star Game Performance on back 663 Rick Reuschel All-Star No Black Streak in Border, Recent ML Performance on back 683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Brown Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with All-Star Performance on back 683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Brown Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with Recent ML Perform on back 683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Teal Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with All-Star Performance on back 683 Kirby Puckett All-Star Mostly Teal Dust by His Right Calf in Photo with Recent ML Performance on back 696 Scott Lusader Break in top front border 699 George Canale Line through right loop on front 'G' 700 Checklist 618-716 700 Checklist 640-BC26 no 716 700 Checklist 640-BC26 with 716 703 Dave Stewart All-Star No Scratch - All-Star Performance on Back 703 Dave Stewart All-Star No Scratch - Recent ML Performance on Back 703 Dave Stewart All-Star Chameleon Scratch Right of Elbow - All-Star Performance on Back 703 Dave Stewart All-Star Chameleon Scratch Right of Elbow - Recent ML Performance on Back 708 Benito Santiago All-Star Faded Green Vertical Stripe in Next to Right Foot on Front, AS Perform on back 708 Benito Santiago All-Star Faded Green Vertical Stripe Next to Right Foot, Recent ML Performance on back 708 Benito Santiago All-Star Green Vertical Stripe in Dirt Next to Right Foot on Front, AS Perform on back 708 Benito Santiago All-Star Green Vertical Stripe Next to Right Foot, Recent ML Performance on back 708 Benito Santiago All-Star No Green Stripe, AS Performance on back 708 Benito Santiago All-Star No Green Stripe, Recent ML Performance on back 710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Black Vertical Scratch in Dirt with AS Game Performance on back 710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Black Vertical Scratch in Dirt with Recent ML Performance on back 710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Green Vertical Scratch in Dirt with AS Game Performance on back 710 Ozzie Smith All-Star Green Vertical Scratch in Dirt with Recent ML Performance on back 715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star No Blue Triangles, All-Star Performance on back 715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star No Blue Triangles, Recent ML Performance on back 715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star One Blue Triangle on Stomach, All-Star Performance on back 715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star One Blue Triangle on Stomach, Recent ML Performance on back 715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star Two Blue Triangles on Stomach, All-Star Performance on back 715 Kevin Mitchell All-Star Two Blue Triangles on Stomach, Recent ML Performance on back 716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped larger 716 A. Bartlett Giamati Cropped smaller 716 A. Bartlett Giamati No black lines on back BC-12 John Smoltz - MVP Photo of Tom Glavine BC-2 Howard Johnson - MVP Clean Jersey BC-2 Howard Johnson - MVP Fuzzy Blue Triangle on Jersey Neck All-Star Performance Recent Major League Performance MVP subset with Dot after INC MVP subset with NO Dot after INC 659 - 659 back 659 - 665 back 659 - 659 back with 665 number 665 Copper Banner on Front - 665 back 665 Tan Banner on Front - 665 back 665 Tan Banner on Front - 659 back ***** All errors/variations occurring on All-Star cards are assumed to be available in ***** both All-Star Performance and Recent ML Performance backs. This may not be ***** the case though. All-Star Cards ----- Harold Baines, Julio Franco, Wade Boggs, Bo Jackson, and Kirby Puckett are all missing the "TM" trademark symbol next to the American League emblem on the front of their cards. No examples with the "TM" present are known. Diamond Kings ----- Some DKs have been reportedly found with No Period after INC on back. These should be considered difficult, if not rare, and not all DKs are known to exist with No Period INC. A stark contrast to the availability of Period/No Period INC base cards.
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I agree with your Bo Jackson comment. I have looked for years, never found any hint of it either.
Thank you for your list. This may just be the impetus for me to bust a box to see if I can fill some holes. Butch
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I would be remiss if I did not share my list so here it is. This comes from my Excel Spreadsheet. So it runs together a bit. Consider each card listed with two descriptions of the variation to that card number.
With the exception of 695 Davis "E R Break - Recent Major League Performance" which I have never seen, I have everything on this list. 1990 Donruss Baseball Variations UPDATED: 6/20 3 Sierra No Small Line Top Back Border Small Line Top Back Border 10 Downing Normal Photo Reverse Photo 18 Johnson Line on back Thicker Line on back Thinner 33 Gonzalez Normal Photo Reverse Photo 100 Checklist #1 - #129 #1 - #125 113 Gruber Feb 22 Birthdate - Back Feb 26 Birthdate - Back 154 Orosco Black Line under 'r' in Orosco Black Line behind 'r' in Orosco 168 Murphy "D" is White - Front Half line through "D" - Front 170 McCaskill Apr 19 Birthdate - Back Apr 9 Birthdate - Back 200 Checklist #130 - #231 #126 - #223 206 Bell "G" Open Bottom Loop - Front "G" Filled Bottom Loop - Front 217 Garrelts Oct 20 Birthdate Oct 30 Birthdate - Back 233 Davis "E" and "r" Joined - Front "E" and "r" Broken - Front 270 Jefferies Open "G" & "J" Loop - Front "G" and "J" Loop Closed - Front 300 Checklist #232 - #333 #224 - #321 321 Hamilton Solid Top Line - Front Top Line Break 1/16 From Right - Front 347 Roberts Line Breaks "B"ip - Front "B"ip is solid white - Front 365 Griffey Jr. No Red Dot on Cap - Front Red Dot on Cap (All over him) - Front 368 Gibson May 25 Birthdate - Back May 28 Birthdate - Back 400 Checklist #334 - #435 #322 - #419 405 Valdez "S" is all White - Front Broken Line Through "S" - Front 408 Innis Mostly Red Scratch Upper Right - Front Scratch more White Upper Right - Front 425 Wells Maple Leaf Touches Bottom Border - Front Gap between Maple Leaf and Bottom Border - Front 500 Checklist #436 - #537 #420 - #517 523 Nezelek Born in 1985 Born in 1965 583 Hickey "K" Is White - Front "K" Has Line Through It - Front 585 Pico Solid Lower Line - Front Line Gap 3/4 from Right Side - Front 600 Checklist #538 - #639 #518 - #617 619 Hillegas Solid Lower Line - Front Line Gap 3/4 from Right Side - Front 637 Steinback All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 637 Steinback Black 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Clean Name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Clean Name Front - RMLP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black lines thinner in name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black lines thicker in name Front - ASGP Back Blue 1 inch Line Upper Left Front - Black Lines thinner in name Front - RMLP Back 639 Morris All White "J" - Front Line Through "J" - Front 650 Jackson All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 654 Johnson All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 659 Ryan #659 Card Back #665 Card Back 660 Baines No Star Line Front - All Star Back No Star Line Front - Recent Back 660 Baines Line Through Star - All Star Back Line Through Star - Recent Back 663 Reuschel All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 665 Ryan K of K #665 Card Back No Card Number on Back #659 Card Back 673 Sierra All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 674 Guerrero All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 676 Ripken All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 683 Puckett All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 692 Sandberg All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 695 Davis No E R Break - All Star Game Performance E R Break - All Star Game Performance 695 Davis No E R Break - Recent Major League Performance E R Break - Recent Major League Performance 697 McGwire All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 699 Canale "G" All White - Front Line Through Right "G" Loop - Front 700 Checklist #640 - #BC26 Includes #716 No #716 #618 - #716 701 Franco All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance AS Partial 19 in "1989" - Back AS Whole 19 in "1989" - Back 703 Stewart All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 705 Gwynn All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 707 Clark All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 708 Santiago All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 710 Smith All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 712 Boggs All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 715 Mitchell All Star Game Performance Recent Major League Performance 716 Giamatti Black Lines on Back No Black Lines on Back BC-12 Smoltz John Smoltz Photo - Front Tom Glavine Photo - Front 1990 Donruss GRAND SLAMMERS 1 Williams With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 2 Leonard With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 3 James With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 4 McGwire With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 5 Evans With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 6 Clark With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 7 Sciocia With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 8 Benzinger With Black Lines on Back - Yellow Star in All Star - Front Without Black Lines on Back With Red Star in All-Star - Front 9 McGriff With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 10 Bass With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 11 Clark With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back 12 Jackson With Black Lines on Back Without Black Lines on Back Yastzremski Puzzle Pieces 1,2,3 With Period Without Period 4,5,6 With Period Without Period 7,8,9 With Period Without Period 10,11,12 With Period Without Period 13,14,15 With Period Without Period 16,17,18 With Period Without Period 19,20,21 With Period Without Period 22,23,24 With Period Without Period 25,26,27 With Period Without Period 28,29,30 With Period Without Period 31,32,33 With Period Without Period 34,35,36 With Period Without Period 37,38,39 With Period Without Period 40,41,42 With Period Without Period 43,44,45 With Period Without Period | With Period in front of 43 only 46,47,48 With Period Without Period 49,50,51 With Period Without Period 52,53,54 With Period Without Period 55,56,57 With Period Without Period 58,59,60 With Period Without Period
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1982 Topps Jim Palmer with ink issues
I found this card looking through my cards this afternoon. The line on the left changes from orange to red and the ink seems smeared in multiple places. Also the words Topps and Jim Palmer should be in orange and not red. Though it was interesting.
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1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659
The 1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan #659 5000 Strikeouts card has a couple of variations that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.
There is a break in line variation where there is a break in the black line just to the right of the yellow star. Also there are 2 different placements of the yellow star on this card - the normal printing has the top point of the star pointing to between the N and R in Donruss and the variation (which I think comes from factory sets but not sure) has the star farther to the right and the top point of the star points to between the R and U in Donruss. As far as I know these front variations only occur on cards with the corrected backs. I've seen plenty of copies of each so I don't think these are particularly rare. Pictured are the break in the line (left) and the star moved farther over (right). Last edited by zogar; 01-29-2024 at 04:31 PM. |
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18 Johnson Line on back Thicker Line on back Thinner I just want to know what to look for and it's easiest if I see it. The messed up part is that I have been so anal about this pursuit I even kept the puzzle pieces. I have a 5,000 ct monster box of nothing but puzzle pieces. I think I have a problem. Arthur
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Thanks for the Ryan additions. More to find!
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So, this sorta fits this category. This is a variation!
Topps Live Frank Howard White personal stats on back. 1511 total print run. Topps Live Frank Howard Black personal stats on back. 10 total print run. I'm happy to have found 1 of the 10. Cheers.
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Thank you and butchie_t for your lists of 1990 Donruss variations. It was the first set that got me into errors as a kid. My father took me to a card show where dealers were asking around $20 for the Harold Baines line through star variation and since rookie and star player cards were a couple of dollars at most my kid brain was like "Woah! I want the errors!". I remember going to a local card store a month or so later and they had 1990 Donruss boxes that they called "4th printing" which they said only contained the Juan Gonzalez error. I have heard some people claim there were somewhere around 12 printings or more in total but no idea if that is correct. I've always hoped there would end up being a couple that were truly rare/hard to find but I guess that is probably a long shot at this point. Last edited by zogar; 01-30-2024 at 03:22 PM. |
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Ink bleeds......I like'em!
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I don't know what the first distribution date is and I'm not sure how anyone else would know either but someone would have to do what I'm doing except on a much larger scale in order to number "printings." The Gonzalez should not be considered difficult if you have an error box. But like all the '90 Donruss cards from the early printings, finding a gem mint copy is basically the plo of the next Indiana Jones movie. Out of all the cases I've ripped, I've only pulled mint copies of the Juan RevNeg. Arthur
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No one ever mentions the 'hair' variation of the 1987 Donruss Dave Winfield Diamond King:
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I don't collect those cards, but there's a drastic difference in the background 'splatter dot' patterns as well, with completely different layouts on each of the two cards shown. Unless those types of differences are found throughout the cards in the set, then it becomes a quick and easy telltale sign to distinguish between the different versions.
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Does anyone have the image someone created that shows all of the possible backs for '89 Donruss? I know it's combinations of *Denotes*, spaces in the bio, and glow under blue light effect but I have no idea what I did with that image. If anyone as it I'd really appreciate it if you could post it here. Thanks!
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Best to checkout Trading Card DataBase. They seem to have a detailed documentation of all things Donruss 90's variations. Not to mention that would be a separate thread than this one. It needs a thread all of its own.
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I don't know if this is actually a variation or just a one-off but I found this Jack Morris interesting while going through my 91 Topps.
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This one is recurring. Not a normal fisheye type defect these two Roger Craig cards have what looks like a perfect O
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There are a ridiculous amount of color variations in the 91 topps but I think the Hassey is kind of cool compared to some of the others with the blue banner/green borders and the black banner turquois borders.
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Is it just me or are others having an issue seeing Pat R's images? Haven't been able to see a one, here or on the 1991 Variations thread. just a little icon in the post.
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It is fairly common and always has been for me and others I have emailed with about it. Can you see anything at all? If nothing try another device. I have one member that I can only see his pictures on one of 5 different devices I have. Now if you see a broken link you can click on it and use the open in new tab option. It will open another tap that you will need to sign in again to actually see the picture. Then you can go back and refresh the original page and all that persons pictures will appear until you leave that page.
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On a weird note I see the image in this post but no pics in any of your other posts. For me I get the broken link symbol in your other posts and have to open them in a new tab to see them.
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Three different versions of the top frame on Mickey Tettleton's 91 topps
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Someone knew that Tino would eventually wear the Yankee pinstripes.
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I have found a few variations of a variation in the 91 topps but this is the best one.
An Al Leiter E* F* sheet code with a small 0 in the number and a break in the line for the major league totals [IMG][/IMG] |
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I don't know if anyone is still updating the 91 topps list but the Leiter is for sure a variation of the E*F* variation. Both have glow backs.
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Hi Pat,
I may be missing something but the Leiter seems to be a pretty standard example of a fish eye print flaw, I don't believe that kind of thing generally qualifies for a new addition to most master lists.
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Kind of cool "multi-colored donut" flaw.
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That's weird.
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1992 Fleer Shawn Hillegas #111. These peach splotches over the back photo are recurring, but I think are not easy. Not that many worthless Hillegas cards come up to look at
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Great find
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Has anyone seen another 1987 Topps Eddie Milner missing text on reverse?
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1982 Topps Jorge Bell 2 small white dots in Outfield
Jorge Bell 2 small white dots in the outfield right side of Bell, anyone seen this? Thanks Joe
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1983 Gaetti
Anyone have any idea why this 1983 Topps Gaetti would have a solid orange back? It was graded a 7 by BVG with nothing noted. Not my card.
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This thread is content gold and I keep coming back to check it out for stuff I have missed! Thanks to all for the info, how many folks have gone back to the commons box to search out gems mentioned in this thread? Great job!
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The yellow/magenta plates bleed over the cardstock areas. See 1990 Topps Jeff King for a more recognized example.
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