Mathewson pronunciation? (and book recommendation)

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Most of these debates can be decided when listening to the Glory of their Times CD...

I've noticed different players pronounce players' names differently, even the old guys on this cd who were contemporaries. Makes sense, as we do the same (Gonzaga, etc.), so you can't rely completely on "Glory of Their Times".

I'll re-listen and write down some examples.

[jimross]

Ma-the-wson

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I've noticed different players pronounce players' names differently, even the old guys on this cd who were contemporaries. Makes sense, as we do the same (Gonzaga, etc.), so you can't rely completely on "Glory of Their Times".

I'll re-listen and write down some examples.

I don't remember any inconsistencies in pronunciation, but that doesn't mean there weren't any. Cicotte, maybe? Or was it just that Ritter pronounced it "sa-COTT-tee" and others like Joe Wood called him "SY-cott." Neal and I were struck when doing the set by how many names were different from what we had thought. Just with Washington players, for instance, Joe Cantillon and Clyde Milan. Makes me wonder how many pronunciations are to be found on the raw tapes that would change the common perception?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

...Makes me wonder how many pronunciations are to be found on the raw tapes that would change the common perception?

Sounds like you've got a new project to work on

[bbcard1]

A little off topic, but Kinsella's Box Socials is funny, sweet and an excellent read

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

A little off topic, but Kinsella's Box Socials is funny, sweet and an excellent read

Did you read "Iowa Baseball Confederacy"? I thought it was even better than "Field of Dreams".

[tbob]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Did you read "Iowa Baseball Confederacy"? I thought it was even better than "Field of Dreams".

+1

I also think the correct pronunciation is Math'-yew-son

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by tbob

I also think the correct pronunciation is Math'-yew-son

That's how I've always said it.

Tabe

[T206Collector]

La-zha-way was at the 1939 induction, and you can hear him announced and then hear him talk on the Centenial CD i posted above. The announcer also says Math-eh-son, i believe, even though i always say Math-u-son, which is what I call my son of the same name (when I'm not calling him Matty).

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I don't remember any inconsistencies in pronunciation, but that doesn't mean there weren't any. Cicotte, maybe? Or was it just that Ritter pronounced it "sa-COTT-tee" and others like Joe Wood called him "SY-cott."

My parents had friends with the name Cicotte and as I remember it, it was pronounced "Sa COTT Ta"

[z28jd]

I was going to post a reply to something similar with Bill Hedin in the related to pre-war player thread. He basically said people in his family pronounce his last name three different ways. I'm going to a family reunion tonight, where half the people pronounce my last name a different way than I do, and we are all from the same section of the same small state!

Basically, there may not be just one way to properly pronounce a last name. Heck, I know first hand from my mom, who moved down to Florida over 20 years ago, she doesn't even pronounce her name the same. She picked up a southern accent somewhere along the line and can't shake the darn thing, even when she's in Jersey

[Hankphenom]

Just heard back from a friend to whom I recently lent the raw tapes, and who has become more or less obsessed with listening to them. He said:

"Can recall from the tapes 4 pronunciations for Cicotte, 2 for Evers, 2 for Manush, 2 for Wagner's first name, 2 for Donie Bush's first name, 2 for Marquard ... DON'T GET ME STARTED!"

Ha! I did not remember any of this, but wasn't really paying attention to that aspect. Also, that was 15 years and many brain cells ago.

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Just heard back from a friend to whom I recently lent the raw tapes, and who has become more or less obsessed with listening to them. He said:

"Can recall from the tapes 4 pronunciations for Cicotte, 2 for Evers, 2 for Manush, 2 for Wagner's first name, 2 for Donie Bush's first name, 2 for Marquard ... DON'T GET ME STARTED!"

Ha! I did not remember any of this, but wasn't really paying attention to that aspect. Also, that was 15 years and many brain cells ago.

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[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Makes sense, as we do the same (Gonzaga, etc.)

Only folks from outside of Spokane (That's SPO-CAN, not SPO-CAIN, LOL) mispronounce it

Gahn-Za-Guh

Not quite sure how to write out the middle syllable

Tabe