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Old 08-17-2012, 12:35 PM
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And at the risk of sounding snide...why should Travis, Richard, me or any other pro spend our valuable time vetting other people's material for free?
Fair point, but I was not aware Travis was a professional. In fact, he just said Wednesday, "i am not an authenticator, a dealer, and i haven't made ten cents in the hobby."

Which is odd because I also distinctly recall him stating numerous times that when he sells something, because of his expertise, he gets just as much for it as if it were certed by a TPA.

In any case, presuming he is primarily a collector, it would have been nice if he shared his expertise in a positive way when he had the opportunity.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:49 PM
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Fair point, but I was not aware Travis was a professional. In fact, he just said Wednesday, "i am not an authenticator, a dealer, and i haven't made ten cents in the hobby."

Which is odd because I also distinctly recall him stating numerous times that when he sells something, because of his expertise, he gets just as much for it as if it were certed by a TPA.

In any case, presuming he is primarily a collector, it would have been nice if he shared his expertise in a positive way when he had the opportunity.

I NEVBER said that BECAUSE of my expertise, i get the same money on my autographs as a tpa. Quit lying.

I have always said that autographs get the same whether tpa or not because they are real, period, whether me or someone else sells them, especially when you have to deduct the 100 dollars it costs to get a psa or jsa from the final selling price. a rocky marciano sig brings in 400- 420 with a tpa cert. it brings in 375 to 400 if not. sometimes it is a 400-400 tie. even allowing for the largest margin, deduct 100 for the cert, and the tpa marciano brings in 320 compared to 375 for the non tpa cert. who won?

I am very experienced in boxing autographs, that makes me a pro in that sense of the word. I haven't made it my profession that i make a living or part of a living off of, but when someone says "he's a real pro!", they are saying he knows his stuff. and in boxing, i do.


i give my opinion for free to my friends that know me, and even to a few new people that get my email from others.

what i dont enjoy is correcting spence and grad over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Then I have just done their work for them and THEY get the 150 bucks and didn't have to be accurate with their work and take my correction and put the notes in their exemplar file. They have just learned from me, cashed the check. Didn't have to be accurate at all, and then they still go out and call themselves super experts.

but we correct them in public to show people they don't know what they are talking about in boxing, we still have a tons more to show.

maybe that is why the email said what it said and people are mad the cat is out of the bag.

Then i get a snide comment that says "if he hasn't written it himself" which is accusing me of writing it, or accusing me of knowing who wrote it. "Travis purportedly knows who wrote it"

Typical tactics used by those who don't like the subject matter to smear. go after the person whom they don't like.

Autograph Magazine Live does the same thing. If you expose something rotten they don't want exposed, you get hit from all sides and eventually banned.

But go after GAI mercilessly all day every day and you get applauded. So there are approved people to rip, and unapproved, and I have seen it before and went through it before.

Ebay guy happened to say in an email what he really felt, and now everyone knows and it is embarrassing to SOME. Not to me as I am in agreement with him.

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Old 08-18-2012, 06:54 PM
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I have one question to all the people that have had there fun with Travis.
The question is who on this board would you trust the most to authenticate any boxing item.
1 Psa
2 JSA
3 ACE
4 Morales
5 PAAS
6 The Donald
7 Ted Taylor
8 William Tell
9 Drew Max
10 GAI
If None of the above tell me who that might be.
If you make fun of this question which I am sure some people will. Then we are back to the school yard.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:55 PM
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I have one question to all the people that have had there fun with Travis.
The question is who on this board would you trust the most to authenticate any boxing item.
1 Psa
2 JSA
3 ACE
4 Morales
5 PAAS
6 The Donald
7 Ted Taylor
8 William Tell
9 Drew Max
10 GAI
If None of the above tell me who that might be.
If you make fun of this question which I am sure some people will. Then we are back to the school yard.

From what I have seen the first two should exclude boxing from the list of items that they are willing to authenticate.
I would feel much more comfortable with Travis authenticating boxing then with anyone on the list.
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:45 AM
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He said She said should have been over at least 90 threads ago. Time to put it to bed and go on to the next disagreement.
Here are a few suggestions. Do you like a left handed players autograph better and why. Do teams that have more players who's names begins with c play better?.If you where to get a famous swimmer to sign something what other than a photo would that be? Last but not least who was the best looking women athlete in the Olympics and why would you like her autograph. That should make for a few arguments.

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Old 08-19-2012, 08:38 AM
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Travis, if John G. really wrote that in an email to someone, why didn't that someone sign his or her name to that article post? Why be a gutless coward about it if it is true? My curiosity is "Why post it anonymously?" The content really is irrelevant in my eyes.

As controversial as Peter Nash may be, he doesn't hide behind a pseudonym or write it anonymously. I respect that.

You see you have to understand something, Travis posted a link to that to get attention. Nothing more, nothing less. And he got what he wanted.

It is purported that Travis does know the author of that article/post. If Travis can use the word purported, why can't anyone else here?

Travis, isn't the author of that article/post, part of the same gang (all using pseudonyms and anonymous posters) that attacks my friends and myself anonymously? If they're going to attack me, why are they such cowards about it? Why are they hiding?

That site recently mentioned Net54 and here's what they wrote:

This is a blog that discusses mostly baseball cards but also autograph collecting. There can be some interesting discussions on this site. But like most sites if the person blogging is not a real name, take it with a grain of salt for it could be your ex getting revenge against you!

Guess what, the coward that posted the above comment, posted it anonymously.

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Old 08-19-2012, 08:54 AM
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Travis, if John G. really wrote that in an email to someone, why didn't that someone sign his or her name to that article post? Why be a gutless coward about it if it is true? My curiosity is "Why post it anonymously?" The content really is irrelevant in my eyes.

As controversial as Peter Nash may be, he doesn't hide behind a pseudonym or write it anonymously. I respect that.

You see you have to understand something, Travis posted a link to that to get attention. Nothing more, nothing less. And he got what he wanted.

It is purported that Travis does know the author of that article/post. If Travis can use the word purported, why can't anyone else here?

Travis, isn't the author of that article/post, part of the same gang (all using pseudonyms and anonymous posters) that attacks my friends and myself anonymously? If they're going to attack me, why are they such cowards about it? Why are they hiding?

That site recently mentioned Net54 and here's is what they wrote:

This is a blog that discusses mostly baseball cards but also autograph collecting. There can be some interesting discussions on this site. But like most sites if the person blogging is not a real name, take it with a grain of salt for it could be your ex getting revenge against you!

Guess what, the coward that posted the above comment, posted it anonymously.

i dont know who wrote it. I know your m.o., keep poking someone until they say something you think can get them in trouble and then take screenshots and then go tell teacher for your little scooby snack. I have no idea who posts there. i used to write articles when it was a forum people could join and write at. I exposed the auction loa mess and others exposed the pawn stars debacle, stories you won't find being broke wide open at scd or autograph magazine live.

if the story was elmo retires from sesame street, i am sure you would spend all this time on it? of course the content is relevant.

You certainly have a lot of questions for the author at anl, keep asking me though.

mr. dragnet type questions aimed at the clouds or at nobody is really funny.

keep this thread going, my threads get all the love. or we could talk about some mickey mantle that sold for $11.45 cents.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:25 AM
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The same gutless cowards that wrote the article/post alleging that John G. wrote that email, also wrote the below comment:

The noose is tightening around the fraudsters and their associates like Steve Cyrkin and Roger Epperson, Mysinger andChris Williams. Most of the legitimate hobby has heard, reasoned, and come tothe decision they are all buffoons.

Yes, the same gutless cowards.

They attack people annonymously.

These are the people that Travis is the spokesperson for. Travis has the guts to post his criticisms under his own name, but the cowards remain nameless.

If those people are so righteous, why are they hidiing? Why do they attack attack people annonymously or under psuedonyms?

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