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[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by shelly

Originally Posted by jgmp123
Hauls of Shame Update:
... is being widely ridiculed by collectors and dealers throughout the hobby.
...Would you be so kind as to list a few names other than auction houses.

AHHH I GET IT NOW...I SEE WHAT SCOTT WAS REFERRING TO...

Shelly,

I didn't say that, it was a copy/paste from the Hauls of Shame Website. If you look at the full post I made you will see that it was copied directly from Hauls of Shame. Which is why I included the link.

Citations 101 my good friend. Here is the foll line again for your reading...

[shelly]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

AHHH I GET IT NOW...I SEE WHAT SCOTT WAS REFERRING TO...

Shelly,

I didn't say that, it was a copy/paste from the Hauls of Shame Website. If you look at the full post I made you will see that it was copied directly from Hauls of Shame. Which is why I included the link.

Citations 101 my good friend. Here is the foll line again for your reading...

Read it again. They are talking about REA not HOS.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by shelly

Read it again. They are talking about REA not HOS.

Shelly,

You're missing my point...You asked me to name the collectors...I can't answer that because I didn't write it....Nash did. ALL I DID WAS COPIED/PASTED FROM THE WEBSITE.

LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOT. I know you know what the copy/paste feature is on the computer

[chaddurbin]

nash makes ridiculous assumptions and make huge leaps in his articles, plus he's got an axe to grind with REA...so it cheapens his message ALOT to me even if he's correct.

and it's true, when he says the "hobby" thinks 50% of tpa'd ruths are fake, he means n54. when he says "dealers and experts" agree the ruth is a bad forgery he probably means his uncle and nephew in new jersey.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

nash makes ridiculous assumptions and make huge leaps in his articles, plus he's got an axe to grind with REA...so it cheapens his message ALOT to me even if he's correct.

and it's true, when he says the "hobby" thinks 50% of tpa'd ruths are fake, he means n54. when he says "dealers and experts" agree the ruth is a bad forgery he probably means his uncle and nephew in new jersey.

Well-said Quan. There aren't many Nash-supporters on this forum, but apparently we've discovered two of them. You make a really great point about "the hobby thinks 50%..." being Net54. The fact that the non-Net54 part of the hobby is a different group with different opinions is critical - without the other group's state of ignorant bliss, forgers would have a much smaller market...if any.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

nash makes ridiculous assumptions and make huge leaps in his articles, plus he's got an axe to grind with REA...so it cheapens his message ALOT to me even if he's correct.

and it's true, when he says the "hobby" thinks 50% of tpa'd ruths are fake, he means n54. when he says "dealers and experts" agree the ruth is a bad forgery he probably means his uncle and nephew in new jersey.

I agree. HOS looks a lot like a misquoted, poorly edited recap of a net54 thread.

New drinking game: Take a shot every time they repeat the same line or thought in the same article. Bonus: Two shots every time he pats himself on the back.

I thought better of it. I don't want anyone blowing a .30 before bedtime.

[jetsticks]

I was told to ignore Shelly because of who he is and what he's done. However, he accused me of going on Haulsofshame and talking about operation foul ball. I never said a word about that because until recently I didn't know anything about it. However, I'm starting to get the picture. I've never personally attacked anyone but I will defend myself when falsely accused. This includes my autographs.

As of today, neither Shelly nor has anyone else provided an alternative to this. I am putting them out there. No takers for authenticity? They must be real then because no one wants to look like a horse's ass when they are proven wrong!

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by jetsticks

they must be real then because no one wants to look like a horse's ass when they are proven wrong!

eom

[shelly]

Originally Posted by jetsticks

I was told to ignore Shelly because of who he is and what he's done. However, he accused me of going on Haulsofshame and talking about operation foul ball. I never said a word about that because until recently I didn't know anything about it. However, I'm starting to get the picture. I've never personally attacked anyone but I will defend myself when falsely accused. This includes my autographs.

As of today, neither Shelly nor has anyone else provided an alternative to this. I am putting them out there. No takers for authenticity? They must be real then because no one wants to look like a horse's ass when they are proven wrong!

Wow, I just wonder who would email you telling you not to talk to me
My past is well know. I have no problem with you bringing it up. In fact because of my past I am a lot more leery than most. Your the one who came up here. When you do you are open to the same treatment everyone else gets.
You have people on here that I am sure can tell you who might want to authenticate them. My question is if they have already been authenticated by Spence what more do you need.
Please show me where any one acused you of anything. The only thing that I know to be a fact. Is that your story is different from your mothers. If that is not a fact please tell me and I will retract that statement.
I do find it strange that any time I get to people there defence is my past. Just saying.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by jetsticks

I was told to ignore Shelly because of who he is and what he's done. However, he accused me of going on Haulsofshame and talking about operation foul ball. I never said a word about that because until recently I didn't know anything about it. However, I'm starting to get the picture. I've never personally attacked anyone but I will defend myself when falsely accused. This includes my autographs.

As of today, neither Shelly nor has anyone else provided an alternative to this. I am putting them out there. No takers for authenticity? They must be real then because no one wants to look like a horse's ass when they are proven wrong!

I can only imagine who told you to ignore Shelly,, and you believed him??
So nice of that person to do it privately and not do it on the board. But why be surprised by that?
What Shelly did was many, many years ago and most of the people on this board are in a forgive and forget mode when it comes to Shelly. Shelly has been one of the most helpful members on this board and I am glad to say he is my friend. Not only helpful on the board but he has done much work to stop the proliferation of forgeries in this damned hobby.
And how do you propose to PROVE someone wrong with those autographed photos. Nobody can really prove anything. Someone can give their opinion on them but that is all you can get.
And if you really do want to ignore Shelly there is an easy way to do it. The ignore option is one of the best things about Net54. Use it.