Show...me...your print variations!

[NateMack]

I found this looking though my dup box. It is not a marker, I looked with my loop. It looks like the black just bled into the Philadelphia Phillies.

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[Exhibitman]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Topps did not mean to send this out this way:



1975 Topps Mini Steve Garvey; I will call him "Mini Miscut."

[ALR-bishop]

Adam-- is that top border uneven ?

[JollyElm]

We are all familiar with the 1966 Bob Heffner 'purple tree' variation, but take a look at the extreme craziness of this sucker…
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[ALR-bishop]

Good one Darren. Had not seen that version

[4reals]

I was unaware of the purple tree variation, nice!

[Kevvyg1026]

What was the cause of this variation? Would similar things have happened on cards in theta row or column?

[Cliff Bowman]

When that particular sheet was being printed it was running low on black ink. At the very least the cards around the Bunning were also affected and are blackless or blacklessing.

[Kevvyg1026]

Here are some of the cards around Bunning, in case you are looking for possible errors.

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[steve B]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

When that particular sheet was being printed it was running low on black ink. At the very least the cards around the Bunning were also affected and are blackless or blacklessing.

Yes, that's what low ink looks like.

Plenty of causes for it, but none I can think of that can be clearly identified form the end product.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Adam-- is that top border uneven ?

No it is the black ink framing the bottom of the next card image.

[pbilyj]

Going thru my 61 Post Cereal cards, card #153 Andre Rodgers (Traded Line), which has 2 different background colors. Not sure exactly if a color ran out during the printing process of the one or the other. One card has a beige background and the other has a sky blue color. Found also that some facial details are better on some cards vs. others.
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[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by pbilyj

Going thru my 61 Post Cereal cards, card #153 Andre Rodgers (Traded Line), which has 2 different background colors. Not sure exactly if a color ran out during the printing process of the one or the other. One card has a beige background and the other has a sky blue color. Found also that some facial details are better on some cards vs. others.

In building my 61 Post set, I found a quite a few of these background color variations. These background color variations seem to be equally plentiful no matter the background, so I have opted to keep just the best looking example of each card with out regards to the background.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by pbilyj

Going thru my 61 Post Cereal cards, card #153 Andre Rodgers (Traded Line), which has 2 different background colors. Not sure exactly if a color ran out during the printing process of the one or the other. One card has a beige background and the other has a sky blue color. Found also that some facial details are better on some cards vs. others.
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It is not just different color in the back ground. The photo is also cropped different.

[skil55voy]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It is not just different color in the back ground. The photo is also cropped different.

The cards are from different cereal boxes. Andre Rogers was on three different boxes. 2 with the traded line. (Grape Nut Flakes and Alpha Bits) 1 with no traded line (Sugar Crisp) The printing process relied on the colors that were to be on the front of the box. Hence the cards on the back would reflect the shading differences. All three of the Rodgers cards are slightly different. (I can scan mine and post) This process is true for all three sets 1961-1963 and the 62 Football set. Depending on the box(es) the player was on the more variation. By the same token there are no variations for players that were on only one box. (Shaw, Woodling et all in 61, Marichal, Spencer et all in 62, Mantle, Maris et all in 63, Martin, Coia in the 62 football set.)

[jimmysuitcase]

Originally Posted by pbilyj

Going thru my 61 Post Cereal cards, card #153 Andre Rodgers (Traded Line), which has 2 different background colors...One card has a beige background and the other has a sky blue color.
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Forgive me if I am about to mention a dead horse that has been repeatedly beaten, but I noticed that no one has mentioned the 62 Post set in this thread. I've found 2-3 color background variations of several of the NL players, so I hung on to them in my "master set." Is there any known shortage of blue vs. white vs. in between background colors?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Seems like the 61 set is a haven for these small print variations. On the 257 Hardy card, along the upper left edge a small streak can be seen within the image. This appears on a seemingly small percent of the copies I viewed. More interesting is that on one of my MC copies of this card, the Gene Green card next to this card on the sheet also has the same small streak, although shorter. The Gene Green card already has a noted variation with the amount of space between the title and name varying. The last Hardy I posted is a copy that has some interesting print defects including a much bluer sky and an ink smudge near the team name.

[4reals]

great post on the Hardy, thanks for sharing!

[ALR-bishop]

...and the Green too

edited---I was able to find one of the Hardy and Green variants without much trouble. But on Green, another seller convinced me there are cropping differences on several of the 1961 cards, similar to minor cropping differences in the 1963 set written about by Vrechek in this article

http://www.oldbaseball.com/refs/1963_New_Variations.pdf


I know it is a stretch, but does nay one see any spacing differences on these Green cards between the name and position in the yellow box

[brightair]

Nice photos, thanks for sharing these!
I see the difference Al, also the picture is cropped slightly differently.
Richard D