Dealer Report on the National

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

Thanks for the informative report Don!

I'm curious, did you notice an increase in interest for Pete Rose cards (Rookie Card or others)? With all the discussion concerning his reinstatement I thought there might be an uptick in interest.

I did sell 2 rose rookies. PSA 8 3500 and a PSA 5 $900

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by Donscards

I did sell 2 rose rookies. PSA 8 3500 and a PSA 5 $900

Nice! Those are pretty strong prices. Congrats!

[oldjudge]

From a collector's viewpoint I can say that the National was pretty much devoid of 19th century material. Walking around (aside from the table I was at)I probably saw 100 Old Judges in the room (not many considering there were 800-1000 tables). None of these were scarce players. I saw 3 Philadelphia Kalamazoo Bats, 1 Gypsy Queen, a few cabinets, and very few N162s. As for the scarcer 19th century photographic cards, there was none. This material has always been scarce, but this is the least I have ever seen available at a National.

[bobbyw8469]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but how that Johnson escaped the "ST" qualifier shows the flaws in 3rd party grading.

And knowing that a Pete Rose rookie PSA 5 sold for $900 makes me wish I had mine back!!!! Glad everyone had a great time!

[jiw98]

My son and I attended our first National. To us, we thought it was a great show. We found several of the cards we were searching for, and we are closer to finishing the sets we are working on.
We met Leon for the first time and had a nice conversation with him about the hobby in general.
As Don mentioned the Topps guy was very loud and kind of annoying. It kept us away from that section of the show for the most part.
For this being our first National Show we had a great time. The conversation with the dealers was informative and a lot of fun. We look forward to going to another National Show in the future.

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but how that Johnson escaped the "ST" qualifier shows the flaws in 3rd party grading.

And knowing that a Pete Rose rookie PSA 5 sold for $900 makes me wish I had mine back!!!! Glad everyone had a great time!

That staining is very common for Polar Bear-backed T206s. Also, the card looks like it would've graded a 5 without the staining; making it either a 5(ST), or a straight 3.

Steve

[tjb1952tjb]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but how that Johnson escaped the "ST" qualifier shows the flaws in 3rd party grading.

And knowing that a Pete Rose rookie PSA 5 sold for $900 makes me wish I had mine back!!!! Glad everyone had a great time!

Polar Bears are almost always tobacco stained due to being packaged/inserted directly with the tobacco.

[1880nonsports]

Originally Posted by tjb1952tjb

Polar Bears are almost always tobacco stained due to being packaged/inserted directly with the tobacco.

my understanding is that the grading companies are committed to universally applying the same standards of grading regardless of the way the cards were packaged - that card has some serious staining and the grading should reflect that..............

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

From a collector's viewpoint I can say that the National was pretty much devoid of 19th century material. Walking around (aside from the table I was at)I probably saw 100 Old Judges in the room (not many considering there were 800-1000 tables). None of these were scarce players. I saw 3 Philadelphia Kalamazoo Bats, 1 Gypsy Queen, a few cabinets, and very few N162s. As for the scarcer 19th century photographic cards, there was none. This material has always been scarce, but this is the least I have ever seen available at a National.

Glad you were at the show Jay or there would have been a lot less in the way of 19th century material. Happy to have picked this one up from you...

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by the-illini

Glad you were at the show Jay or there would have been a lot less in the way of 19th century material. Happy to have picked this one up from you...

I second this comment Chris. Some impressive 19th century between Richard Masson & Jay Miller. Jay was responsible for my lone pick-up which came by way of trade (a very nice item , thank you Jay! ). Enjoyed spending time with many of the folks behind the tables including Toby Peterson (albeit brief), Tony Arnold, Glenn Mechanick, Knouse family, Dan McKee, Scott Brockelman, and many more.

Another highlight for me was catching up with Zach Rice, an impressive young scholar in the hobby, and visiting other new and old friends. This was the first National I was able to enjoy with long time collecting friend Keith Thompson, what a treat!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

From a collector's viewpoint I can say that the National was pretty much devoid of 19th century material. Walking around (aside from the table I was at)I probably saw 100 Old Judges in the room (not many considering there were 800-1000 tables). None of these were scarce players. I saw 3 Philadelphia Kalamazoo Bats, 1 Gypsy Queen, a few cabinets, and very few N162s. As for the scarcer 19th century photographic cards, there was none. This material has always been scarce, but this is the least I have ever seen available at a National.

That's amazing. Very glad I spend the last two weeks running in the North Carolina mountains, and will definitely do the same thing next year.

Glad to hear Don had a good show, as well as most of the other dealers here. We'll see you at the 2017 show probably.

[bostonmarathonman]

Originally Posted by Donscards

I did sell 2 rose rookies. PSA 8 3500 and a PSA 5 $900

Yup, my sales pitch to the couple was what ultimately sealed the deal. Although even with the two fish eyes it was still a gorgeous card--what corners!! It would be an easy 8.5 if it was graded today.

Don, it was great seeing you and paul as always. I look forward to seeing you again at the gbscc in november but I will of course be in touch before that!!

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by bostonmarathonman

Yup, my sales pitch to the couple was what ultimately sealed the deal. Although even with the two fish eyes it was still a gorgeous card--what corners!! It would be an easy 8.5 if it was graded today.

Don, it was great seeing you and paul as always. I look forward to seeing you again at the gbscc in november but I will of course be in touch before that!!

David--it was nice having you as my right hand man---and great seeing you again---you will have to be behind the table in Boston---

[bostonmarathonman]

Originally Posted by Donscards

David--it was nice having you as my right hand man---and great seeing you again---you will have to be behind the table in Boston---

Hilarious!! Thanks my friend--whatever it takes to help you sell a card (not that you need my help!!) I am always happy to oblige!!

[glynparson]

Are only used if it would lower the grade below described. They are stating a card in that grade may have staining so it does not need the qualifier. I agree with them in this case by the way.

[Leon]

Glynn- it was great spending some time with you again. Thanks!!

OH yeah, I sold a few mid grade goudeys and picked up a miscut Yeungling.....from a table partner.

Originally Posted by glynparson

Are only used if it would lower the grade below described. They are stating a card in that grade may have staining so it does not need the qualifier. I agree with them in this case by the way.