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Old 02-10-2016, 06:07 AM
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All i know is I see board members bitching and whining about the whole mastro debacle...which has shown that the "shill" "problem" is alive and well...and widespread throughout the hobby. Board members too lazy to read the threads and do the legwork themselves pleading and moaning for a "list" of suspect shillers and suspect sellers to be made and presented to them.

So to date we have a significant % of existing auction houses ether having admitted in the past to deceptive bidding practices...or caught in the act...some of whom have "vowed" to change their ways.

And we have likely the 2 biggest ebay sellers PWCC and good old Probstein where board members have shown over...and over and over and over... again numerous examples of blatant shilling.

NO...not all auctions are shilled...but a shit ton are. And the problem is there are a lot more buyers of these cards out there who are not privy to this knowledge...who do not frequent this/other boards. So these people are driving prices higher as a secondary affect of the shillers...so it may not appear to be shill bidding...but it is atificial inflation.

Carry on with your blinders on...as it seems many of you don't seem to mind overpaying for your cardboard. Just don't bitch about it...you have the proof...you only have yourself to blame!

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Old 02-10-2016, 07:32 AM
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I feel so sorry for all you "Ebay Flippers" out there that weren't able to steal
anything from this month's PWCC auction.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:16 AM
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I feel so sorry for all you "Ebay Flippers" out there that weren't able to steal
anything from this month's PWCC auction.
There are other sellers on Ebay (I should know - I'm one of them)....I am guessing other buyers will just focus on other sellers for the 'normal' pricing, and just consign to PWCC for the premium pricing. I'm not smart enough, or care enough to do it myself. I'm sure others can, and do "do it".
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NO...not all auctions are shilled...but a shit ton are.
Hey is a "shit ton" greater than a "butt load"?

Actually, I liked that post. Tell it like it is.
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Hey is a "shit ton" greater than a "butt load"?

Actually, I liked that post. Tell it like it is.
unless you have a kardashian-esque butt..YES...a shit ton is more than a butt-load!
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unless you have a kardashian-esque butt..YES...a shit ton is more than a butt-load!
Ah......but what is greater a metric butt load or imperial butt load?
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