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Old 03-30-2016, 03:36 PM
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Just wasted an hour with this guy:

1. I lowered a card on a sales post to XXX. Guy pm'ed me to say he "thinks he'll take it" but can't get the funds 'til tonight and if I can hold it. I said sure send when you're ready.

2. then he wants to see a back scan, i complied and he says looks great he'll talk to his "business partner". then he says he'll only pay in regular paypal that's how he operates and if i will send the card priority mail...

3. i said reg pp is fine if he wants priority it's $5 extra. he comes back with he talked with his partner the card looks great if i'd take $20 less for it now (????). i told him no if he doesn't want it i'll just relist it.

4. next he says well he's buying for a friend the card again looks great but he really can only pay $10 less than what he originally agreed to buy it for....!!! suffice to say the card is back up for sale.

I expected this kind of behavior on Ebay or other kiddie forums but I guess these types are moving onto this board also. I'm gonna block him to be safe but ymmv with this guy, proceed with caution and expect after a deal to be struck he'll come back with 5 other conditions and lowball offers...
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What about #2, #3, and #4? And why would you have him hold it if you weren't sure you could afford it? That doesn't sound very good.
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:59 PM
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Bad form to try to lowball someone after agreeing to a price subject to being able to afford it especially after he already agreed to eat the PP fee unnecessarily and to ship priority. The court rules in Quan's favor.

Hey Quan, would you take $30 less?

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Why ask someone to hold a card if you weren't sure you could pay for it? If 10 bucks creates an affordability issue perhaps you should save the money for necessities and shouldn't be buying cards at this time.
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Whoa whoa whoa, this is way outta bounds. In my initial message I said, as follows: "i think i will take it, may I just have a little bit to get my funds together? i should be ready by tonight." I checked and didn't have as much as I had thought to spend. I was straightforward but used a gentle tone, I thought we had resolved the situation. You could have just PM'ed me and let me know you weren't happy, no need to go and rant to the boards. Gosh, dude. Not cool.
Not a rant on his part, just letting everyone know how you do business. No one is going to have a problem with how he handled it, many will have a problem with how you did. You don't agree to a price and then try to make another deal for a discount. That's not cool. Quan is well respected here, you are unknown to most. Be very careful how you continue with this line of posting. Just a fair warning.
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Once you say hold it you've agreed to the price. If money is an issue don't ask someone to take a card off the table. Simple. This is a straightforward transaction, not a home or car purchase.
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"Talk with my business partner" = "Get permission from my wife".

"Can only pay you $10 less than we agreed upon" = "Wife said no."
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not a rant on his part, just letting everyone know how you do business. No one is going to have a problem with how he handled it, many will have a problem with how you did. You don't agree to a price and then try to make another deal for a discount. That's not cool. Quan is well respected here, you are unknown to most. Be very careful how you continue with this line of posting. Just a fair warning.
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"Talk with my business partner" = "Get permission from my wife".

"Can only pay you $10 less than we agreed upon" = "Wife said no."
His sig. line says: "I like chocolate milk, Andre the Giant, and HISTORY CLASS". So you might want to change Wife to MOM.
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i would've been completely cool if he told me he couldn't come up with the fund and back out of the deal. i've had a board member back out of a 6k deal after weeks of waiting back in the day. this is totally different after a deal was struck this guy came back and tried to haggle some more, this is not a monetary issue. that's what i want to warn the board about..
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You mess with Quan, you'll wish you hadn't. We all know that.
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His sig. line says: "I like chocolate milk, Andre the Giant, and HISTORY CLASS". So you might want to change Wife to MOM.


Yeah, I'm guessing he's just a kid.
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Yeah, I'm guessing he's just a kid.
Yeah same here. Not that that is an excuse, but he's young and his apology sounded sincere and hopefully he learned a lesson.
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Sorry for not showing my sorry face here earlier, got caught up in work. I had not realized the gravity of the mistake I made here, definitely was bigger than I had thought at the time. I apologize to everyone here on this forum, it was not my initial intention to back out of a deal (heck I didn't think I had to agreed to one in the first place. Boy was I wrong.) I will personally send OP an apology message. Please forgive my defensiveness, I don't want this to tarnish my possibility for future deals with anyone here. I will try to work things out with the OP so that amends can be made. And yes, my "business associate" is my little brother He and I are in cards together and we like to discuss major purchases before purchase with one another. I tip my hat to the Sherlocks in this thread
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Yeah same here. Not that that is an excuse, but he's young and his apology sounded sincere and hopefully he learned a lesson.
Yea I agree, seems like an honest mistake/apology.
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its ok...you can recover just like sean did...just be a good person and be honest.
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I'll take the highroad too. Get right with the OP and learn from this.

Also, since you had to talk to your brother about this (you partner), both of you should consider how you did the OP. What if you two were selling the card, and someone did that to you? How would you two respond?

You are young. Lose, learn and move on. Grow from it.
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Old 03-30-2016, 05:41 PM
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I'm sure we've all made worst mistakes when we were young. I know I did. But just remember this is a relatively small hobby and an even smaller board. If you want to do business here or elsewhere in this hobby in the future you will want to protect your reputation and be honest at all times. It doesn't take much for word to get out that someone is not to be trusted.
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Did a deal with NJ this afternoon and hope to do another in the future. Thanks NJ and enjoy the cards!
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it wasnt for a ben macdonald rookie was it?
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I didn't read this entire thread but starting out the dialogue with ..."I think i'll take it", really should be a warning sign right there.
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it wasnt for a ben macdonald rookie was it?
I have a few EX/MI if you need them. He's all the rage.
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I have a few EX/MI if you need them. He's all the rage.
will you take a few dozen bernie williams rookies in tade?
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NJ,

From your handle I was thinking that donuts are your thing. I'll trade any day for an apple fritter.
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Nah this McDonald kid is 1000% can't miss gold.
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Nah this McDonald kid is 1000% can't miss gold.
How about some near mint mint Phil plantiers?
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I have a few dozen 89 Topps Mark Lewis cards I would trade for those Bernie Williams.
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sooooo tempting!!!!!
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Andre the Giant was the best.

What about Gregg Jeffries?
What about Pete Incaviglia?
What about Steve Avery?

You are doing the right thing by making this right, but you likely won't get another chance. Think of this as a gift because it is and learn from it.
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I remember pack-searching for Phil Plantier with my little brother at Toys-R-Us. Great memories!
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sooooo tempting!!!!!
I've got some Gem Mint 10's Todd Van Poppel and Brien Taylor rookies I can throw in..........
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Every now and then some good bagel, cream cheese and lox can't be beat either.

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Not far off! I actually roll with bagels. Can't beat a niiiice, toasted, salt bagel. Mmmmmmm.

Indubitably, Andre was the best. I appreciate that note of encouragement as well, thank you. Also, Andre meme!
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Now that we got Planters in play maybe we can work out a three collector
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Ill take the Plantier and the Mcdonald in a trade for a 91 Ultra Pat Listach, a 92 Topps GOLD FOIL Juan Guzman and 1987 FLEEEEER FACTORY SETTT. All in GEM. MINT. TEN.
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Olerud had a pretty good career actually.
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ya...who doesnt!!!!!!!
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Well this thread ended up alright. Now I'm hungry.
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Well this thread ended up alright.
Yeah, I actually really enjoyed this thread (except until the end, where I am now pretty full after eating a whole pack of bagels and cream cheese, while looking an my Ben McDonald, Mark Lewis, Gregg Jeffries, Pete Incaviglia, and Steve Avery collection).

Everyone handled this nicely, from the potential buyer apologizing and not getting nasty and defensive; to the seller and others being forgiving; and all who gave good advice to the potential buyer to do the right thing in the future. Great site!

I wish I collected vintage cards like most of you, so I could be more actively involved. However, I do enjoy seeing all of your cards and do enjoy a lot of the posts!

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