Kris Bryant overrated?... too soon for they hype?

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Canseco and Kingman and Fielder too. And Ryan Howard.

My original argument even compared Bryant to R.Howard. So even though it is possible to sustain a career with these types of numbers, most would agree that these aren't HOF careers. I know R.Jackson is a HOF, but he is usually on people's list of worst HOF members. Thome struck out, but he also had a great BB% . He ended his career 7th in career BB.

Also the spread between hits and strikeouts is a lot bigger with KB. KB gets a hit 78% as much as he SO. Thome-91% and R.Jackson 99%. Again obvsioulsy KB has just started out, but this isn't about whether he can have a long career but more about is it too early to consider him the next great player and I just feel he got a lot more hype than the numbers suggest.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

My original argument even compared Bryant to R.Howard. So even though it is possible to sustain a career with these types of numbers, most would agree that these aren't HOF careers. I know R.Jackson is a HOF, but he is usually on people's list of worst HOF members. Thome struck out, but he also had a great BB% . He ended his career 7th in career BB.

Also the spread between hits and strikeouts is a lot bigger with KB. KB gets a hit 78% as much as he SO. Thome-91% and R.Jackson 99%. Again obvsioulsy KB has just started out, but this isn't about whether he can have a long career but more about is it too early to consider him the next great player and I just feel he got a lot more hype than the numbers suggest.

Agreed, but probably most people with high expectations for Bryant believe he can substantially improve on his strikeouts. Trout did I think. Harper has. Why not him?

Actually Trout had more Ks than hits in his MVP season.

[KCRfan1]

I think the game has changed in how strikeouts are viewed. George Brett said when he played, a strikeout was viewed as a bad at bat. That's not true in today's game.

[packs]

Trout strikes out a lot, but it's because he's asked to hit more home runs. Also, he's a complete player in a way that Bryant isn't. Trout also won the MVP in his worst professional season. He is the player people want Bryant to be, but I don't see it in Bryant. Although I wouldn't have expected Harper to change his approach so drastically like he did last season, so anything is possible. Harper was able to cut his BB / K rate almost to 1:1. That's really impressive.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Trout strikes out a lot, but it's because he's asked to hit more home runs. Also, he's a complete player in a way that Bryant isn't. Trout also won the MVP in his worst professional season. He is the player people want Bryant to be, but I don't see it in Bryant. Although I wouldn't have expected Harper to change his approach so drastically like he did last season, so anything is possible. Harper was able to cut his BB / K rate almost to 1:1. That's really impressive.

I think Harper finally realized his raw talent was only going to take him so far. A hitter that good with serious discipline at the plate is a frightening prospect.

[packs]

It was especially impressive to see a player do that while he was so young. Bryant played a full college career, so I think his faults might be a little more ingrained in him than Harpers were.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by packs

It was especially impressive to see a player do that while he was so young. Bryant played a full college career, so I think his faults might be a little more ingrained in him than Harpers were.

That's an interesting hypothesis, that college guys might have more engrained "faults." Do you know if anybody has looked into that for a study or anything?

It'd be really interesting for Bryant vs. Harper, as u believe they were both born in 1992.