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i love pedro, i mean LOVE...still hurts today that he was traded from the dodgers for delino deshields, but i don't know if he juiced or not. i mean half the guys were cheating, his homeboys manny and ortiz was juicing. i wouldn't blame him if he did to level the playing field. he was dominant in that era, i wouldn't use the argument he was more dominant than kershaw because he was clean pitching against roided players...we never know.
to me it's a toss up right now with the clear nod to pedro, but kershaw still has 2-3 more prime years barring injuries to further cement his legacy. as is he's already better than koufax imo and already a hof'er.
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I'll take Kershaw over Pedro. As a lefty, most hitters ( righties ) should hit him and they don't. As a righty, Pedro had the better match-ups in terms of righty / righty, than Kershaw will ever have as a lefty / righty. Kershaw has had to be that much better imo.
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kershaw just made his 250th start. a dodgers site just compared that to koufax's first 250 (on 06/1965...he only pitched for another season and a half):
koufax: 119-71, 2.96 ERA, 1,692 innings, 159 home runs, 622 walks, 1,746 strikeouts kershaw: 119-57, 2.40 ERA, 1,670 innings, 100 home runs, 468 walks, 1,815 strikeouts kind of amazing their innings pitched were similar even tho kershaw plays in the relief specialists era.
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Good, but flawed research, Chad. I'm sure you meant Koufax's LAST 250 games. I stand by my conviction that Koufax was better...and I absolutely will not 'pay any attention to the man behind the curtain'. .
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Koufax's LAST 250 he was probably 250-0. Those are almost certainly his first 250.
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mmm yea reading is hard, and certainly you would want koufax's LAST 250 starts to compare to anybody's. koufax had to retire after his age 30-season. i'm willing to bet barring injury after kershaw's age 30 year i would take his 5-year stretch over any of sandy's.
of course legends are made in the postseasons, and koufax is so beloved because he brought home a couple championships. kershaw hasn't done it yet (though not entirely his fault), and i don't feel as constructed the dodgers will win big anytime soon during kershaw's prime years.
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Kershaw is certainly on his way but still very early in his career for me, I still think Greg Madfux is the best pitcher I have ever seen. I was shocked this week on the ESPN rankings having Pedro in 1st by quire a bit. I was lucky enough Enough to see Pedro pitch 5 starts and 1 inning of relief on either the last or next to last of the season. He was 0-4 with 1 no decision. As great as he was I just saw him in person on the wrong nights?
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