1947 BOND BREAD and its "imposters"....show us your cards ?

[GasHouseGang]

According to the SCD article, here's the checklist:
1. Rex Barney
2. Yogi Berra
3. Ewell Blackwell*
4. Lou Boudreau*
5. Ralph Branca
6. Harry Brecheen*
7. Primo Carnera*
8. Marchel Cerdan
9. Dom DiMaggio
10. Joe DiMaggio
11. Bobby Doerr*
12. Bruce Edwards
13. Bob Elliott*
14. Del Ennis*
15. Bob Feller*
16. Carl Furillo
17. Joe Gordon*
18. Cid Gordon
19. Joe Hatten
20. Gil Hodges
21. Tommy Holmes*
22. Larry Jansen
23. Sheldon Jones
24. Eddie Joost
25. Charlie Keller
26. Ken Keltner*
27. Buddy Kerr
28. Ralph Kiner*
29. Jake LaMotta
30. Johnny Lindell
31. Whitey Lockman
32. Joe Louis*
33. Willard Marshall
34. John Mize*
35. Stan Musial*
36. Andy Pafko*
37. Johnny Pesky*
38. Pee Wee Reese
39. Phil Rizzuto*
40. Jackie Robinson*
41. Aaron Robinson*
42. Johnny Sain*
43. Enos Slaughter*
44. Vern Stephens*
45. Birdie Tebbets
46. Bobby Thomson
47. Johnny Vander Meer
48. Ted Williams*

Ewell Blackwell was part of the square corner find, so that appears to be what you have. Not sure about the semi-gloss back, however. The backs are generally just regular paper stock and blank.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

According to the SCD article, here's the checklist:
1. Rex Barney
2. Yogi Berra
3. Ewell Blackwell*
4. Lou Boudreau*
5. Ralph Branca
6. Harry Brecheen*
7. Primo Carnera*
8. Marchel Cerdan
9. Dom DiMaggio
10. Joe DiMaggio
11. Bobby Doerr*
12. Bruce Edwards
13. Bob Elliott*
14. Del Ennis*
15. Bob Feller*
16. Carl Furillo
17. Joe Gordon*
18. Cid Gordon
19. Joe Hatten
20. Gil Hodges
21. Tommy Holmes*
22. Larry Jansen
23. Sheldon Jones
24. Eddie Joost
25. Charlie Keller
26. Ken Keltner*
27. Buddy Kerr
28. Ralph Kiner*
29. Jake LaMotta
30. Johnny Lindell
31. Whitey Lockman
32. Joe Louis*
33. Willard Marshall
34. John Mize*
35. Stan Musial*
36. Andy Pafko*
37. Johnny Pesky*
38. Pee Wee Reese
39. Phil Rizzuto*
40. Jackie Robinson*
41. Aaron Robinson*
42. Johnny Sain*
43. Enos Slaughter*
44. Vern Stephens*
45. Birdie Tebbets
46. Bobby Thomson
47. Johnny Vander Meer
48. Ted Williams*

If I understand what you're asking, which is what players show up in the square corner set, they are marked here with an *.

[tedzan]

I don't believe this list is correct....Walker Cooper should be on this list.

TED Z

[GasHouseGang]

I believe you, but he isn't on the SCD list. Do you see someone that shouldn't be on the list?

[spec]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I don't believe this list is correct....Walker Cooper should be on this list.

TED Z

Could someone post a Bond Bread-size Walker Cooper? It has been my understanding that he only appears in the exhibit-size version of this issue.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I don't believe this list is correct....Walker Cooper should be on this list.

TED Z

Ted, your own list in post #7 doesn't include Walker Cooper.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I don't believe this list is correct....Walker Cooper should be on this list.

TED Z

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

Ted, your own list in post #7 doesn't include Walker Cooper.

My list in Post #7 applies ONLY to the 1947 BOND BREAD cards (Rounded corners) set.

If you go back and read the posts in this thread, you will realize that the Square-cornered set is NOT exactly the same issue.


Sorry, I did not respond to you on this earlier, but I was in Cooperstown these past 6 days.


TED Z
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[GasHouseGang]

OK, I think I'm a bit lost again. The list I posted was from the SCD article and was supposed to be the Bond Bread 1947 set, and the cards with an * were in the later find of 24 cards square cornered, which may or may not be reprints. I think the unknown for me, is what cards are in the 1949 square cornered set. Is there a checklist for these? Based on the picture of the boxes there should be 48 "Sports Stars" which may include two boxers. Where the movie stars fit into this hasn't been explained.

[doolittle1.1.1]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

OK, I think I'm a bit lost again. The list I posted was from the SCD article and was supposed to be the Bond Bread 1947 set, and the cards with an * were in the later find of 24 cards square cornered, which may or may not be reprints. I think the unknown for me, is what cards are in the 1949 square cornered set. Is there a checklist for these? Based on the picture of the boxes there should be 48 "Sports Stars" which may include two boxers. Where the movie stars fit into this hasn't been explained.

You are right on the money about being lost I AM LOSTER THAN YOU. Nobody will believe that my set is from 48-49 when another set was made in the 1980's. The only one authentic is me, so far, because I have had them since the 40.s... Is this fun or what

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

OK, I think I'm a bit lost again. The list I posted was from the SCD article and was supposed to be the Bond Bread 1947 set, and the cards with an * were in the later find of 24 cards square cornered, which may or may not be reprints. I think the unknown for me, is what cards are in the 1949 square cornered set. Is there a checklist for these? Based on the picture of the boxes there should be 48 "Sports Stars" which may include two boxers. Where the movie stars fit into this hasn't been explained.

I found this picture I had saved away from the non-sport website. If these were the box for the W673 "Navy Ships", maybe the same company is responsible for the 1949 square cornered "Sports Stars" set, and the "Movie Stars". The box certainly looks the same, or at least similar.

[danmckee]

I have 25 square corner baseball players and 1 boxer that have the same exact white paper backing and not the cream color. These are originals for sure, cards are identical to my clipped corner ones. Dan

[vintagetoppsguy]

Thank you, Lee, for reviving this thread back in June (Post #70). I am assuming the question was regarding the Musial in your June auction. I won the card and I’ve read through this thread (and found a lot of useful information), but still have some questions if anybody can help.

I am assuming this card was part of the Collectors & Traders Sports Star Subjects 4 box set that was made by Aarco Playing Cards (Chicago). How do we know for sure the cards were made in ‘48/’49? Why couldn’t they have been made at the same time as the Bond Bread (’47)?

There is one eBay seller that seems to think so…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-W571-Aa...vip=true&rt=nc


I have a few interesting observations between the one on eBay and the one I purchased from Lee. (1) The card on eBay is cropped a little closer than mine. Look at the left and right borders and you can see more of the image on mine. (2) The name on his is more towards the bottom. The name on mins is a little higher up. (3) The back of his card appears to be more white (could be the scan though) and I thought I read that the white backs were considered reprints?? Is his a reprint? It sure looks like it shows its age (nearly 70 years old).

Is it possible there were multiple print runs and the formatting changed? If ours are both Sports Star Subjects, why the differences?

The one I purchased from Lee


The one on eBay


The back of mine


The back of the one on eBay


Here is a Bond Bread just to compare to. Note that even the Bond Bread is cropped more closely than mine.