Thoughts on Kaepernick & the national anthem

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Actions have consequences. It's America. As much as I would support their (any of them) right to do what they did, I would support my right, if I were in that position, to mete out punitive consequences. We would both be within our rights. (See first sentence.)

And what of Rosa Parks, would you have punished her too?

[Leon]

Of course not. It's not the same. I would hope I would have been on her side concerning sitting on a bus.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And what of Rosa Parks, would you have punished her too?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Of course not. It's not the same. I would hope I would have been on her side concerning sitting on a bus.

No, it's not. She broke the law, they didn't.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Rosa Parks was protesting for racial equality. Kaepernick is protesting for...well, nothing. Huge difference!

My earlier question may have been overlooked. What opportunities are minorities (specifically black, since that is the topic of discussion) lacking?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Rosa Parks was protesting for racial equality. Kaepernick is protesting for...well, nothing. Huge difference!

My earlier question may have been overlooked. What opportunities are minorities (specifically black, since that is the topic of discussion) lacking?

The comparison was to Smith and Carlos at the Olympics.

[1952boyntoncollector]

I would of valued the protest higher if it came right at the height of his fame after the super bowl loss. Hes now more famous for the protest than for anything he has done on the field.

Jim Brown is a famous proponent for civil rights etc and he was equally famous for the work he did on the field.

[packs]

You are on the world's stage at different moments in your life if you are lucky to be on it at all. Why wouldn't black athletes take a stand against social inequality while on the biggest stage available to them? Saying you have a problem with when and where is a little shortsighted. These were men protesting at the height of the civil rights era. African Americans had only just had their rights affirmed with the civil rights act and the government was still injecting African Americans with syphilis just to see what happened. How could they not take that moment to express themselves? And how could you, a person exempt from anything they experienced, possibly have a perspective on when and where they should express themselves?

[Leon]

Their actions are worse than hers in my eyes.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No, it's not. She broke the law, they didn't.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Their actions are worse than hers in my eyes.

I understand that, but not why.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Today, folks, today! Why are we discussing events from decades ago? What opportunities are minorities (specifically black, since that is the topic of discussion) lacking today?

[packs]

Did you see the video of Philando Castille? What did he do to deserve to die other than being black in America? He had been stopped 52 times by police in his area. 47 violations were dismissed because they had no merit. But he had the same opportunities as you, right?