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Old 05-20-2017, 06:53 AM
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My curiosity concerning the Doolan/Doolin confusion started with trying to establish what happened and why there are two 1908-09 Rose Company postcards of the same person. The Doolin was published in the initial issuance (1908) the Doolan sometime later. Why the change? Why issue another card?
In trying to analyze this unusual case I find the 1909 T206 checklist with the same problem. So being there are a million or so T206 collectors perhaps.......
The baseball ref states: Doolin - SABR spells it: Doolan - Wiki=Doolin – Rose Co. makes costly change of printing another card to go from Doolin to Doolan. T206 has both.
There must be some logical conclusion to this dilemma.


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Old 05-20-2017, 07:54 AM
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Does anyone have old box scores to see how they spelled his name?
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:03 AM
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This is interesting. It never even occurred to me that Doolin could be correct because his name is spelled "Doolan" on both of these cards from 1914-1916. I see that Baseball Reference has it as Doolin.
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:28 PM
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From baseball reference:
Name Note: born Michael Joseph Doolittle, adopted surname sometimes spelled Doolan

So maybe its both or he changed his name a second time as Doolin is close to Dooin and he didn't want anyone to confuse him with Red Dooin.
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These auto's aren't authenticated but both use the Doolan spelling.
Doolan Auto.jpg
Doolan Auto 2.jpg

Also here's a ball with Doolan.
http://rarebooks.library.nd.edu/exhi...hy/index.shtml

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Old 05-22-2017, 07:10 PM
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Default Show us your T206 "proof's"......

* * * * * * * * * * T206 Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * *

v...................................... 5-card proof strip with Wagner ......................................v
. . . .


The most significant find of T206 "proofs" is the unique Wagner 5-card strip (shown here). Art Martineau mentioned it in a 2005 thread.... T206 proofs

This 5-card strip was first acquired by Bill Zimpleman and Wayne Varner in the Pittsburgh area in the 1970's. They accquired it from a gentleman who had
purchased Wagner's house. In the early 1980's, Barry Halper acquired this strip from Bill and Wayne.


Here is a reprint card of another unique T206 proof....Eddie Collins (with bat) that American Litho (ALC) did not issue (for whatever reasons). My theory is
Collins (like his boss, Connie Mack, and Eddie Plank) didn't do tobacco in any form. However, ALC printed Collins in the 350 Series. So much for my theory.

Had ALC continued this Collins card into their regular production line, they would have printed it with a PIEDMONT 150 back first. And, perhaps some of the
other T-brands in the 150 Series. At the start of each Series press runs, the PIEDMONT backs were printed first on the T206's (and, at greater number than
any of the other T-brands).









I certainly ain't any kind of expert regarding T206 proofs. This Puttman proof is the only one I have....so, I leave it up to you guys with all these proofs to
show-n-tell us all about them.

Where's Johnny V when we need him


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Old 05-23-2017, 09:45 PM
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AWESOME THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been meaning to post in it....

I have been super busy, but have been meaning to write a few articles.....especially on proofs

I will post tomorrow on the 206 proofs....you are onto something!

150 subjects hint hint
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