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Alright, good point.
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With regards to the registry, I know they won't allow cards with less than 4 copies if they're numbered to be added. So you can't put 1/1s in a set registry and then have the only one. Since this is the only one confirmed of Berra and Mantle, it's possible they wouldn't be "required" members of the set registry and instead be "optional" non point getting cards.
If they are permissible, they would probably poll the top 50 or 100 members of the player set registry to see whether they should be added, before actually doing it.
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is babe ruth butter cream on the registry?
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There are four graded by PSA.
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I wonder if rare front back combos fits this “guideline?”
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There were a couple of only graded on the Mantle one too, and I wasn't asked to vote on it. So, I'm not sure that's the procedure.
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1952 Mickey mantle and yogi Berra mascot dog food cards
I read some previous post about these 2 cards that went up for auction and sold. I have a complete collection from mascot dog food with 10 cards in mint condition with geo specs toporcler, don newcombe, Eddie Matthews, Gil Hodges, Monte Irvin, yogi Berra, Mickey mantle, Robin Roberts, al flip Rosen, Ed lipstick. Need some help on how to authenticate and possibly value. I noticed the Mickey mantle sold with Wheatland auction for $23k. I have the whole collection
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You could also post scans of the cards on here, if you want the board members to take a look at them. I'm completely out of my element for something like this, but there are very knowledgeable people on this forum. Hope that helps. |
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It should be easy to get them authenticated if you have 10 of them. Do the Roberts Mantle and Berra all match up with the 3 known examples? If they do then I would think that PSA would be your best shot at getting top dollar. Please I know it is frustrating to post pictures on this site the first time so if you email me the pictures front and back I can post them for you.
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WOW...please post pics.
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I also would love to see the pics.
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So the known checklist and known count currently is (alpha by last name):
1: Yogi Berra (2) - Set Size: 8 2: Gil Hodges (1) - new name 3: Monte Irvin (1) 4: Ed Lopat (1) 5: Mickey Mantle (2) - Set Size: 11 6: Eddie Mathews (2) 7: Don Newcombe (1) - new name 8: Robin Roberts (2) - Set Size: 8 9: Al Rosen (1) 10: Specs Toporcer (1) 11: UNKNOWN - Presumably Bucky Harris (Mgr) Originally there were 8 according to the back of the Robin Roberts card in the standard catalog. Do all of your cards mention 11 in the set on the back? If the Robin Roberts in your collection mentions 11 cards, then it's also a variation to the original known card. Once the 11th card is found and authenticated, PSA will likely allow for this to be graded by their company. I disagree with the poster from a few years ago that the card is so rare that condition wouldn't matter much. I think that if you have an authentic Mantle in "mint" condition (like EX-MT or better), you could put the card in a much more active auction (REA, Heritage, Goldin, etc) and easily get over $100K. You have the benefit of finding the second one, so now the first one has kind of proved the authenticity to the market. If a 2009 Mike Trout is about to sell for $3 million or so, a 7-figure price on a super-rare high grade Mantle wouldn't shock me. You can load the pictures on a site like Facebook (if you have an account), then use the image icon (mountain with yellow sky) above the text box to format your embedded image in the post, or just post the links (URLs) and people can embed the images for you. Add: Hodges and Newcombe, along with Mantle, look to be the three cards added to the original 8 (known from the article posted in Post #52).
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Bucky Harris is the 11th card in the set. I have scans of the 11 cards, front and back from my research of these cards over the past couple of years since I found and sold the Mantle and Berra. I am actually in the process of writing a story on the set, with photos, and should have it completed in the next 2 weeks. I have photos of the only known complete set of (11) from the original owner who remembered buying mascot dog food in the early 1950s - these are really rare items (I have people calling me frequently to see if any are coming up for sale soon). Three of the card backs mention 11 postcard redemptions in the give-away (Mantle, Newcombe, and Hodges) and the rest mention 8 cards in the post card redemption. There are (11) cards in the baseball card set and the list presented here is accurate. I think they likely made 8 cards in the first year, then added the other 3 (Mantle, Newcombe, Hodges) in the second year. If anyone has more information on Mascot dog food, the company, or these cards or redemption program please let me know. It's been fun researching these cards over the past couple of years to try to piece together more information!
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mascot
Has anyone gotten an answer from the original poster to email
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- (1) the original Robin Roberts in the old price guide; - (2) Mantle and Berra that sold via our auction at Wheatland; - 11 that I discovered in one collection; - 10 from pbruderer? - am I missing any? |
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Mascot et al
as I've always believed eventually everything shows up
How long did it take for cleveland indians central bank cards Cleveland Indians prize frankies? Bazooka 1960 box set Mascot dog food 30 years for a red correct mantle armour and then 10 Still finding new pros pizza Took me 20 years for sal yvars 54 hunterS 60 years to see the missing dice gsmes Still haven't seen 1/2 set of opc tattoos...they exist but where are they Only 1 Venezuelan tatoo...they must exist..where are they Still haven't seen 3/4 of the felin franks Still haven't seen 3/4 of national tea How many jerry Jonas have u seen? 50 years to see cheri baas cola 50 years for the plaks Somewhere someone has these cards just a matter of when and where they turn up |
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Mascot
pbruderer....
Doesn't respond to pm or emails Could be fake |
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Weather Channel ?
..most of the East has no electric power,,,,patience this week , eh ?---and I'll be down to see you right after Thanksgiving , virus be damned... .. |
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Mascot
possibly....but I'm guessing he has a phone which has email, internet etc
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I tried to ship a package UPS yesterday and one store had power out and did not expect power until weekend at earliest. Next store 3 miles away had no internet, and other customers at second store said that cable internet was down in entire town and most of county.
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Mascot
Just strange it shows up just when wheatlands shows up.....NOT big on coincidences
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We got nearly nothing here, a fairly bad thunderstorm and that was about it. |
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What a letdown. Was hoping to see an actual find of the entire set.
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Sounds like you will since chuckw posted that he has photographed one.
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Thanks John. Look forward to seeing them ChuckW!
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I do not. This would mean they are assuming Beckett got it right. Why should PSA rely on the inferior experts at Beckett? Makes no sense to me. I have no issue with a company deciding it does or does not wish to grade an issue. There are issues I feel are very questionable in some companies holders. I do believe the find chuck made a couple years ago was genuine but PSA should be able to make the determination on what they grade and what criteria need to be met to grade an added issue or card to the catalogs.
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So has anyone heard from pbruderer yet
No response to email or pm No response on this board Anyone think he's real? Whats his name? Wheres he located,? Still interesting just happens to show up same time as wheatland with the same unknown cards |
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I believe many would argue about "inferior experts" at Beckett compared to PSA. Especially in light of PSA's recent problems.
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..PSA has been having problems with older cards for a long time... ... |
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Data entry is. Not done by the graders. I stand by my statement. Beckett grading is. Not reliable I trust it less than any company that I know is still
Operating. They all aren’t perfect but to me Beckett is the farthest from it. |
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To me that's not an expertise that anyone would be inferior to. |
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A couple of years ago I got a call out of the blue from PSA regarding an issue that I discovered and got put in the Standard Guide. About a month LATER I got another call from PSA regarding another issue I got cataloged in the Standard Guide. When I asked to be put on the payroll they hung up and haven't heard from them since
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I actually put together the composite for 1932 Bulgaria Sport for PSA because I wanted it included in the registry.
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Mascot
So has anyone heard from pbruderer
Never posted any response....never answered any emails or pm Was he real or a plant by an auction house Where are the cards? Btw...offered him in email a ton of green And he didn't respond Last edited by sflayank; 08-16-2020 at 07:21 PM. |
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Ask Leon to call him if you wish, just PM him.
I just find it pretty amazing that he knew the name of the other two cards in the set before chuckw posted a confirmation. So I'm still in the believer camp. Although I do watch a lot of House and NCIS, so I understand the "there are no coincidences" theory.
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Mascot
Why not respond to anyone?
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I completely disagree with almost everything you say on the subject. Not that that matters, just another opinion. And this person claiming to have a set is going to be suspended for now. It is a girl and I am not sure that post is on the up and up. I tried to call her but it was a voicemail and I don't leave them.....Caveat Emptor.....
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Mascot
So where are the pictures
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mascot
pictures of the set which were already taken were promised 2 weeks ago
where are they |
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Maybe you can subpoena them?
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They must be mixed in with trumps taxes
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Done with politics. Infraction given.
and it might say something that with over 10000 members you are the first to ever accumulate 4 infractions and still be here. A new record. Be proud. .
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Leon Luckey Last edited by Leon; 08-20-2020 at 09:29 AM. |
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I don't think the original person who started this post has responded with their photos. I indicated that I'm finalizing a story on the Mascot cards and will post a link as soon as it is ready (involved in a lot of important environmental and hurricane response work right now but still hoping to get it finished by the end of next week). I'm trying to get information from another owner of a few Mascot cards over this weekend.
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