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Old 10-16-2018, 10:10 PM
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That's why he gets my consignments. I often net more than I would have even asked in a private sale.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:16 AM
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That's why he gets my consignments. I often net more than I would have even asked in a private sale.
I listed a well centered PSA 1.5 #149 Ruth on the BST for $1800. No takers. I sent it to PWCC and it sold for $2300. So I netted more even with their commission taken out.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:23 AM
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Is that the exact same card or just the exact same grade? One appears sharper than the other.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:43 AM
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Bobby might be onto something. The rough cut on the top border seems to have disappeared. The bottom card seems to have slightly wider left and right white borders. The corners also appear sharper. The serial numbers also don’t match. I can’t imagine SGC is deleting the old serial number and issues a new number for a reholdered card? This would destroy their pop report.

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Old 10-17-2018, 07:45 AM
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Bobby might be onto something. The rough cut on the top border seems to have disappeared. The bottom card seems to have slightly wider left and right white borders. The corners also appear sharper. The serial numbers also don’t match. I can’t imagine SGC is deleting the old serial number and issues a new number for a reholdered card? This would destroy their pop report.
Am I the only one that thinks the OP never implied that the two Mantles were the same card?
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:18 AM
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they are obviously not the same card...as the 2nd one has fatter left border.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:26 AM
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PWCC scan is awfully shiny.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:27 AM
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Am I the only one that thinks the OP never implied that the two Mantles were the same card?
I read it that way too.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:32 AM
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Well....he said "(new holder)", which could either be taken as "the card is in a new holder", or "here is my original card in a new holder".
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Old 10-17-2018, 09:29 AM
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I read it that way too.
Just to clarify...the top card was MY SGC 8.5 that sold on Ebay for $8,700
The bottom card is a DIFFERENT SGC 8.5 that sold through PWCC for $15,656

Sorry for any confusion
BTW....re slabbed cards are given the same SN
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:47 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks the OP never implied that the two Mantles were the same card?
Although the OP has clarified his post, I read it assuming it was the same card in a new holder with a high end sticker added. I did not examine the cards closely enough to notice the difference.
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Old 10-17-2018, 02:24 PM
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Although the OP has clarified his post, I read it assuming it was the same card in a new holder with a high end sticker added. I did not examine the cards closely enough to notice the difference.

I didn’t know it was a plug for the PWCC hi end sticker but wanted to point out that two different cards can sell for different prices based upon eye appeal.

Does anyone know the credentials or hobby experience of those giving the hi end sticker at PWCC??

I hope it’s more than they stayed at a holiday inn last night but am not sure. ��

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Old 10-17-2018, 09:25 AM
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Is that the exact same card or just the exact same grade? One appears sharper than the other.
Exact same grade
Bottom card went for the higher price
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:44 AM
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That's why he gets my consignments. I often net more than I would have even asked in a private sale.
All of which suggests that one is pretty much guaranteed to be paying absolute top dollar if bidding in a PWCC auction, correct ?

It's fascinating to me how their "brand" has been so well received by both buyers and sellers. People don't seem to mind paying record prices as long as it's with PWCC because somehow their auctions are considered a more true indication of the market, which, in turn, makes you feel like haven't overpaid....no matter how much you overpay.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:21 PM
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All of which suggests that one is pretty much guaranteed to be paying absolute top dollar if bidding in a PWCC auction, correct ?
I don't necessarily believe so. I have won some auctions with PWCC, where I was at or below what I expect the card to sell at.

The high end stuff really goes, but I see some mid-grade items that are won below many asking prices on the 'bay.

I think it's an over generalization that everything they sell goes above VCP, SMR, or whatever metric you're using. I've read many posts here, where consignors did not get near what they had hoped with PWCC.

This is a pretty good price for an item I just won:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-World-....m43663.l44720
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:03 PM
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It's amazing how the 719, 314 and 368 bidders (all 100%) have no interest in anything else on eBay from any other seller. Also, why would they bid like this? Is this how you bid when you're trying to win an auction?

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/35...p2047675.l2565
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:31 PM
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I'll never understand why anybody would want to waste that much time bidding a couple dollars at a clip. I usually only bid once at the very end.
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