baseball playoffs

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nice outing by Clayton.

tough outing..again all inherited runners scored and he did pitch into the 5th...unlike Chris Sale so he didnt do any worse than him

Still when throwing 91 mph...cant really say choked..doing the best he can with 91 mph against best offense in baseball in AL park with DH...if throwing 95 mph like the last 10 years thats a different story ..

now Sale had the better stuff and still did had a tough outing...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

tough outing..again all inherited runners scored and he did pitch into the 5th...unlike Chris Sale so he didnt do any worse than him

Still when throwing 91 mph...cant really say choked..doing the best he can with 91 mph against best offense in baseball in AL park with DH...if throwing 95 mph like the last 10 years thats a different story ..

now Sale had the better stuff and still did had a tough outing...

Jake, forget the spin. He had a BAD night and got shelled. Period. He remains inconsistent post-season IMO. I don't know what the issue is but there is a disparity between his playoff self and his regular season self which we can no longer write off as small sample size -- IMO again.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jake, forget the spin. He had a BAD night and got shelled. Period. He remains inconsistent post-season IMO. I don't know what the issue is but there is a disparity between his playoff self and his regular season self which we can no longer write off as small sample size -- IMO again.

Its not a small sample size hes been very good the past 4 years.. for throwing 91 mph he's been great.

You cant compare him at 91 mph versus his Cy Young years.....its not a mental issue. Chris Sale had all his stuff and it didnt matter. Playoffs are a different animal now with how starters are used. Thats whats amazing about kershaw last series in which you jumped on him for his first game performance with the 3 errors by his team .. then he came through for the most key game of the series..game 5..then closed out game 7..... the narrative has simply changed versus what it was going into 2014 or so.

But again, you take off 5 mph from Scherzer and then question why he isnt the same... its a physical issue on kershaw not mental this year..... but still doing fine...they are in the world series after all...


Also you are going to get hit by the Red sox at home a lot harder than you will facing 90 loss NL Teams in NL parks......you cant expect playoff stats to be better than regular season stats

[Peter_Spaeth]

The reality is that playoff batting averages are significantly LOWER than regular season. Here's a post from a guy online who looked into this a few years back.

Did some quick research, and this is actually a little harder to get at than I thought to find for all-time, but here's what I dug up for the last 10 years:

Regular Season vs Playoffs
2013 MLB Average (as of 10/6/13): .253 vs .239
2012: .254 vs .235
2011: .255 vs .252
2010: .257 vs .209
2009: .262 vs .241
2008: .264 vs .245
2007: .268 vs .233
2006: .269 vs .251
2005: .264 vs .254
2004: .266 vs .256

Looking at those numbers, obviously there's less variance for regular season averages due to much larger sample size (2430 regular season games vs ~35-40 postseason games per year), but for the last decade, batting averages tend to be about .20 points lower in the postseason than in the regular season.

So again -- stop the spin. Stop the excuses. Stop. Clayton STILL has a post-season problem.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Its not a small sample size hes been very good the past 4 years.. for throwing 91 mph he's been great.

You cant compare him at 91 mph versus his Cy Young years.....its not a mental issue. Chris Sale had all his stuff and it didnt matter. Playoffs are a different animal now with how starters are used. Thats whats amazing about kershaw last series in which you jumped on him for his first game performance with the 3 errors by his team .. then he came through for the most key game of the series..game 5..then closed out game 7..... the narrative has simply changed versus what it was going into 2014 or so.

But again, you take off 5 mph from Scherzer and then question why he isnt the same... its a physical issue on kershaw not mental this year..... but still doing fine...they are in the world series after all...


Also you are going to get hit by the Red sox at home a lot harder than you will facing 90 loss NL Teams in NL parks......you cant expect playoff stats to be better than regular season stats

His postseason ERA the last 3 years has been 4.03, slightly better than his career of 4.28, but definitely not good.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Its not a small sample size hes been very good the past 4 years.. for throwing 91 mph he's been great.

You cant compare him at 91 mph versus his Cy Young years.....its not a mental issue. Chris Sale had all his stuff and it didnt matter. Playoffs are a different animal now with how starters are used. Thats whats amazing about kershaw last series in which you jumped on him for his first game performance with the 3 errors by his team .. then he came through for the most key game of the series..game 5..then closed out game 7..... the narrative has simply changed versus what it was going into 2014 or so.

But again, you take off 5 mph from Scherzer and then question why he isnt the same... its a physical issue on kershaw not mental this year..... but still doing fine...they are in the world series after all...


Also you are going to get hit by the Red sox at home a lot harder than you will facing 90 loss NL Teams in NL parks......you cant expect playoff stats to be better than regular season stats

Good news Jake. The Dodgers will not lose today and Kershaw will not give up a run.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Good news Jake. The Dodgers will not lose today and Kershaw will not give up a run.

Even better news is that Jake will not have to spin anything tonight.

[Dewey]

Even if Dodgers manage a win, they are brutal. Terrible at bats. Over managing. Garbage execution. Singlehandedly changing Price's post season narrative and making Porcello out to be a world beater. Gross.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by Dewey

Even if Dodgers manage a win, they are brutal. Terrible at bats. Over managing. Garbage execution. Singlehandedly changing Price's post season narrative and making Porcello out to be a world beater. Gross.

That's just who they've been under Friedman and the philosophy. Just like NBA with the 3s they take big hacks feast or famine, there's no grinding at bats or working the pitchers. Like I said it's more of a baseball simulation than a real live game and it's not very entertaining to watch.

I've always liked eovaldi, we could've gotten him back wonder why Friedman didn't make a deal for him. Great stuff throws hard right hander we have good relationship with Tampa fo. Maybe injury concerns, but it's a minimal gamble with big upside in an area of needs.