Big Mail Day Jeter SP!!

[CW]

CONGRATS! Card looks great based on the photo.

[Jhileman79]

Originally Posted by CW

CONGRATS! Card looks great based on the photo.

Thanks!! It is the best Jeter SP I have ever owned!


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[ls7plus]

My deepest sympathies go out to you. Hope you didn't pay too much for a player who was, as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel (OPS+ 115 to 111, a totally valid comparison between players of different eras), and not nearly as good defensively. Signature Jeter hit? Fisted blooper to right field (I sure saw enough of them off his bat--too numerous to count!). Signature Mantle hit? 450-500 foot+ homer (such as the blast to right off the facade at old Yankee Stadium, 117 feet high, 374' from home plate; the one over the left field scoreboard at old Griffith Park in Washington--supposedly traveling 565 feet--and the fact that center field UPPER deck in old Tiger Stadium--field level, 440' to dead center--was known as "Mickey Mantle territory" for good reason; plus 3 over the right field roof at Tiger Stadium). Plus, there are thousands and thousands of this card out there in higher grades, with extremely little to differentiate between them!

Just my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to dampen your parade out of ill motive, but sometimes a little reason has to filter into the "popular" category, and not just mist, smoke, delusion and hype! Like the actual ability of the player, and not the common illusion regarding same. Jeter was a compiler, which is why is bare total stats over a long period make him look considerably better than he really was.

Just sayin',

Larry

[Jhileman79]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

My deepest sympathies go out to you. Hope you didn't pay too much for a player who was, as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel (OPS+ 115 to 111, a totally valid comparison between players of different eras), and not nearly as good defensively. Signature Jeter hit? Fisted blooper to right field (I sure saw enough of them off his bat--too numerous to count!). Signature Mantle hit? 450-500 foot+ homer (such as the blast to right off the facade at old Yankee Stadium, 117 feet high, 374' from home plate; the one over the left field scoreboard at old Griffith Park in Washington--supposedly traveling 565 feet--and the fact that center field UPPER deck in old Tiger Stadium--field level, 440' to dead center--was known as "Mickey Mantle territory" for good reason; plus 3 over the right field roof at Tiger Stadium). Plus, there are thousands and thousands of this card out there in higher grades, with extremely little to differentiate between them!

Just my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to dampen your parade out of ill motive, but sometimes a little reason has to filter into the "popular" category, and not just mist, smoke, delusion and hype! Like the actual ability of the player, and not the common illusion regarding same. Jeter was a compiler, which is why is bare total stats over a long period make him look considerably better than he really was.

Just sayin',

Larry

I’m a Yankee fan. Grew up idolizing Don Mattingly. Watched the “Core 4” dominate and win titles. Jeter had an amazing career and will be a first ballot HOF. This is the most iconic modern baseball card!

Go Troll somewhere else.

Go Yankees!


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[JoeDfan]

Originally Posted by Jhileman79

I’m a Yankee fan. Grew up idolizing Don Mattingly. Watched the “Core 4” dominate and win titles. Jeter had an amazing career and will be a first ballot HOF. This is the most iconic modern baseball card!

Go Troll somewhere else.

Go Yankees!


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What he said!!!!
That is an AWESOME card!!!!!

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Jhileman79

I’m a Yankee fan. Grew up idolizing Don Mattingly. Watched the “Core 4” dominate and win titles. Jeter had an amazing career and will be a first ballot HOF. This is the most iconic modern baseball card!

Go Troll somewhere else.

Go Yankees!


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Real nice card of a first ballot HOF player!

Unless you have a great amount of experience with submitting crossovers, I would consider keeping this nice card in the holder it resides in.

[Jhileman79]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Real nice card of a first ballot HOF player!



Unless you have a great amount of experience with submitting crossovers, I would consider keeping this nice card in the holder it resides in.

I am not going to crack it out. I am sending it to BGS tomorrow for 2/day review with a min 9.5 crossover grade!! I think it has a great chance


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[pokerplyr80]

The only card post 1980 more iconic than the sp Jeter is the 86 Jordan. Jeter is the most popular and widely collected player of the modern era, and despite what a few haters have to say I don't see that changing. Championships, and being the face of the Yankees for over a decade mean a lot more than stats alone. The all star appearances and 3000 hits don't hurt either.

[Sierra79]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

...as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel

Yeah, but what I think your neglecting to take into account is that Jeter was ROY, broke 3K hits, .310 career BA, 14xAS, 5xWS champ, and ROY, and if that's not enough, he played for the Yankees in a dynasty period. So, I'm not knocking Trammell or his own RC card, but in terms of name recognition, even outside of the hobby, Jeter is an iconic player and soon to be 1st ballot HOFer.

As far as his '93 SP rookie is concerned you are right, the population is enormous, but...once you get to the mint grades now we're talking several hundred cards not thousands. I also, don't see to the numbers changing too much as the years go on as most of those '93 SP's are probably stuck together or have been warped in their boxes over time. The foil on those cards are extremely sensitive to indentations in the surface, chipping, and corner wear. His looks far nicer than most (unless you haven't taken a look at those things up close) - honestly looks like a BGS 9.5. And, while the population of '78 Trammell/Molitor (and even the '78 BK) cards is much smaller, Jeter's popularity/recognition is far greater than both Trammell and Molitor combined, I'm not really sold on Trammell as a comparable to Jeter in terms of hobby appeal.

Either way, it should be interesting to see what happens to mint 9+ graded after he gets inducted.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

My deepest sympathies go out to you. Hope you didn't pay too much for a player who was, as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel (OPS+ 115 to 111, a totally valid comparison between players of different eras), and not nearly as good defensively. Signature Jeter hit? Fisted blooper to right field (I sure saw enough of them off his bat--too numerous to count!). Signature Mantle hit? 450-500 foot+ homer (such as the blast to right off the facade at old Yankee Stadium, 117 feet high, 374' from home plate; the one over the left field scoreboard at old Griffith Park in Washington--supposedly traveling 565 feet--and the fact that center field UPPER deck in old Tiger Stadium--field level, 440' to dead center--was known as "Mickey Mantle territory" for good reason; plus 3 over the right field roof at Tiger Stadium). Plus, there are thousands and thousands of this card out there in higher grades, with extremely little to differentiate between them!

Just my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to dampen your parade out of ill motive, but sometimes a little reason has to filter into the "popular" category, and not just mist, smoke, delusion and hype! Like the actual ability of the player, and not the common illusion regarding same. Jeter was a compiler, which is why is bare total stats over a long period make him look considerably better than he really was.

Just sayin',

Larry

Wow way to throw a wet blanket on that. Just because you hold a personal opinion about a certain player doesn't mean that player can't have a fantastic baseball card. Jeez.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Wow way to throw a wet blanket on that. Just because you hold a personal opinion about a certain player doesn't mean that player can't have a fantastic baseball card. Jeez.

And Larry my apologies to you - as I see you did the right thing. I replied before scrolling to the bottom. Oy. Happy Friday everyone...

[ls7plus]

It's completely OK, John. My original bad--I deserved the rips. Hope your collecting brings you all you are seeking!

Sincerely,

Larry

[Peter_Spaeth]

I'm not a huge fan of the new shiny stuff, but in hand the SP Jeter is a very attractive card IMO. Then again I really like the 94 SP Arod too.

[smrtn240]

great info here, just lay off the sauce

[Rookiemonster]

This card also has been increasing at a insane rate this year.

[Republicaninmass]

IMO the pump before the HOF dump

[MVSNYC]

Literally, in the last 2 weeks alone, the Jeter SP has gone quite nuts. I assume the start of the new season has something to do with the bump, but it's been really insane these last few weeks. Wow. Certainly a big supply, BUT clearly an even bigger demand. Iconic.

Glad I got a stack of them when I did.