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Old 11-17-2018, 04:15 PM
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The time has surely come for an appreciation thread featuring cards you have that came back from the graders with dreaded qualifiers, but don't bother you (nearly) at all. You love them and/or love the discounted price you paid for them!!!!

Post 'em if you got 'em...

The '61 Say Hey Kid just has a bit of snow while his '73 Mets card is barely a hair off from being properly centered. The Mantle has a tiny bit of wax near his face that could've been easily removed before it was submitted, but alas. The Rose is a puzzler for sure...


These 4 (including a trio of HOF southpaws) are all O/C, but if your OCD isn't too bad, they don't present much of a problem...
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Is "OC" a standard designation now?
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I'm pretty sure the O/C qualifier has been there since the beginning. I have a 1970 Topps Nolan Ryan in an ancient slab that's graded a PSA 6 OC. That one, let me tell you, is way off center and wouldn't deserve to be in this thread.
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I'm pretty sure the O/C qualifier has been there since the beginning. I have a 1970 Topps Nolan Ryan in an ancient slab that's graded a PSA 6 OC. That one, let me tell you, is way off center and wouldn't deserve to be in this thread.
That was sarcasm. I have seen much worse come back with no OC than several of the cards pictured.
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It depends on the degree of offcenteredness and the straight grade the card is.
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I don't have many OCs, but I like this Mays. To me, the value of the qualifier is that you know this is essentially how the card came out of the pack - according to the eagle eyes of PSA at least. With a 7 (or whatever it would be without a qualifier) you have less information about the overall condition. Of course I would know the centering contributed to the grade, but I wouldn't know it's the only real flaw PSA found.

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Thought I'd give this thread a bump with a couple of the all time great sluggers. Show 'em if you got 'em...

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This one doesn't bother me in the least.
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Here is one my favorites.
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Here is one my favorites.
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Here is one my favorites.
I've seen worse that don't have the OC.

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The higher grade the card is notwithstanding the centering, the less tolerance there is for bad centering in terms of the grade. Does that make sense? For example a PSA 8 must be 65/35 to 70/30 centering or better on the front. If a card is otherwise an 8 but is centered 75/25 it's going to be a PSA 8 (OC). But when you get down to a card that is otherwise a PSA 5, the tolerance is only 85/15 on the front. So a card there that is 75/25 is going to be a straight 5 without the qualifer.
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The higher grade the card is notwithstanding the centering, the less tolerance there is for bad centering in terms of the grade. Does that make sense? For example a PSA 8 must be 65/35 to 70/30 centering or better on the front. If a card is otherwise an 8 but is centered 75/25 it's going to be a PSA 8 (OC). But when you get down to a card that is otherwise a PSA 5, the tolerance is only 85/15 on the front. So a card there that is 75/25 is going to be a straight 5 without the qualifer.
Thank you for that. Had no idea. Good info.
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Thank you for that. Had no idea. Good info.
Yeah it's still subjective (you will see cards often centered outside the standard on the back, for example - but they still get a higher grade...) but the idea is that if a card is really high end, the centering must be very good as well.

This kind of thing drives me nuts when people online are arguing over why this or that vintage card got a PSA 3 or 2, and someone will chime in "Look! It's way off-centered on the back...that's why!!!" Well yeah, it's O/C on the back, but who cares? That is virtually never the reason that a card in lower grade already gets downgraded further. As if the card would have been a PSA 5 if not for the centering on the back...when often the card in question already has a crease or 3 shot corners or something.
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It may be a bit of 'qualifier overkill,' since I've posted these elsewhere, but what the hey...

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This one has a small wax stain from the wrapper on the blank back. Doesn't bother me too much.

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(No longer) graded, but certainly could be qualified. Love it regardless, the surface and color are killer.




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Wow Josh! Those are tough to find in good shape. Id be really happy with those even with the qualifiers.
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This one is obviously more about the back than the front...

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...and it don't bother me none.
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The marker on the back of this card doesnt bother me at all. In fact, I can picture an 8 year old boy sitting in his room in 1956 writing the uniform numbers of his heroes on the back of their cards. I have no idea if thats the case, but its my story and Im sticking to it.
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... "There ain't no disgrace in bein' poor......( pause , pace the stage ) might as well be , though".

..the grader could have stopped at the "1".....adding the qualifier was juss piling on and showin' off....I figure he was mad because he couldn't read the back ( it's half in French.).....merde....

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A couple more big names that don't look so bad...

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Don't collect the 1970 FB set, but I couldn't pass up either of these HOF'ers, who don't even come close to what I would deem O/C...

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Technically this is out of line since its not graded, but this would probably get some kind of qualifier. I dont know though - it could be a straight 6. Normally 80/20 centering range or worse I stay away from, but for some reason this one has never bothered me. Maybe because the 62 borders are a bit duller - I just dont really notice them. The pic is killer with nice color and a crispy image:




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The marker on the back of this card doesnt bother me at all. In fact, I can picture an 8 year old boy sitting in his room in 1956 writing the uniform numbers of his heroes on the back of their cards. I have no idea if thats the case, but its my story and Im sticking to it.
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These 4 (including a trio of HOF southpaws) are all O/C, but if your OCD isn't too bad, they don't present much of a problem...
That '72 Lefty Traded is ridiculous, btw. I have one centered about the same that was a straight PSA 8.
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A pair of 1961 Topps...

The virtually flawless #485 Banks MVP is featured in the "Grading Has Clouded Our Minds" thread, and the tough #531 Coates high number has a little too much black/gray here and there (most visibly in the yellow area) for PSA's liking. Really nothing very noticeable, so I'm happy to have grabbed it...

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This is a companion piece to the 1973 Willie Mays at the beginning of this thread...

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Two of the three true all-time HR leaders. When I see a beautiful card like this, the OC qualifier stands for "OF COURSE I need to grab it!!!"
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Grabbed this Mantle at a huuuuuge discount (as compared to a straight 7) and it really doesn't look too bad to me, as it isn't mind-blowingly off kilter. You could even argue that the OC qualifier is a result of the back centering...

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Two all-time greats from 1972 with sharp as heck corners, but just a smidge off side to side...

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