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Old 06-01-2019, 10:14 AM
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^^^This^^^ I have a couple of friends who have absolutely zero knowledge of Net54, Blowout, Mastro, etc. When I see them and we discuss cards, I have brought all of this up. They look at me like I am exaggerating or speaking a foreign language. I am afraid most collectors are just like them...I was the same way before I found Net54 a few years ago...just quietly collecting cards and enjoying their collections without a care in the world.

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This story isn't a "Me Too" story like the ones in the news. But I agree with the poster above. I just spoke to two friends who are frequent and active buyers of 1940's and 1950's PSA cards for their several registry sets. While they are both extremely active in buying, neither had any idea this new scandal was going on, nor had they heard about the autograph scandal of a few weeks/months ago.

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Old 06-01-2019, 10:19 AM
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What do you think of the picture in this listing?

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Old 06-01-2019, 10:41 AM
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Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:55 AM
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Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
Did you not watch Brent's one-hour + discussion on conservation?
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:58 AM
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While they are both extremely active in buying, neither had any idea this new scandal was going on, nor had they heard about the autograph scandal of a few weeks/months ago.
Nothing that a front page article in the SMR or Forbes wouldn't help fix.
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Nothing that a front page article in the SMR or Forbes wouldn't help fix.
Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:35 AM
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Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
I'm sure Forbes has at least one investigative journalist on staff. These articles basically write themselves.
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I'm sure Forbes has at least one investigative journalist on staff. These articles basically write themselves.
Is the same publication that's been worshipping Brent going to trash him?
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:52 AM
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Is the same publication that's been worshipping Brent going to trash him?
That attitude is exactly why nothing will ever come of this. Your focus (and many others too) is only on Brent when there are multiple parties involved. If you put as much equal focus on the other parties as you did on Brent, someone might actually take you serious.

My 4:1 offer still stands. Anybody got balls?
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That attitude is exactly why nothing will ever come of this. Your focus (and many others too) is only on Brent when there are multiple parties involved. If you put as much equal focus on the other parties as you did on Brent, someone might actually take you serious.

My 4:1 offer still stands. Anybody got balls?
I have said lots about PSA including today that I am starting to think SGC grades better. Am I willing to speculate that card doctors are paying graders, not yet, although I have acknowledged the possibility.
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Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
A number Forbes online contributors were involved, not too long ago, in a payola scandal where the writers were taking money for favorable pieces and links to certain companies.

This is merely a statement of fact. Draw your own conclusions.

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Those "articles" always smelt like infomercials to me. ITS NOT SHOCKING!!!!
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Those "articles" always smelt like infomercials to me. ITS NOT SHOCKING!!!!
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Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
I prefer "this stupid" to which my answer is yes, yes, they are this stupid.
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