VCP got a face lift

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

How about addressing the recent posts on Blowout and CU?

Like the one suggesting Bobby under another ID is threatening to once again pull the buyer ID data? Or the one criticizing him for the mega PWCC banner ad?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Like the one suggesting Bobby under another ID is threatening to once again pull the buyer ID data? Or the one criticizing him for the mega PWCC banner ad?

Personally I would not answer anonymous trolls if I were him. People who are not hiding behind a keyboard I would answer.

[BobbyVCP]

I am only a member on this board and only post on this board. Here is where VCP started 12 years ago. Here is a place that I respect their opinion and ideas and value the feedback given.

I hope this answers your question Peter_Spaeth

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Bobby, you got caught redhanded posting under an alt on CU. I mean, come on... you literally identified yourself in the older posts. I know it's embarrassing but have a sense of humor about it.

Arthur

[Batpig]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

I am only a member on this board and only post on this board. Here is where VCP started 12 years ago. Here is a place that I respect their opinion and ideas and value the feedback given.

I hope this answers your question Peter_Spaeth

Total and utter garbage, and anyone that reads those threads will see that. If you’d just own up to it, you might regain some credibility. The fact that you aren’t has made me rethink giving you the benefit of the doubt about protecting PWCC.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Batpig

Total and utter garbage, and anyone that reads those threads will see that. If you’d just own up to it, you might regain some credibility. The fact that you aren’t has made me rethink giving you the benefit of the doubt about protecting PWCC.

No he won't he lost ALL credibility PERIOD continuing to display the biggest crook in the hobby of all times. BRENT MASTRO PWCC. Makes YOU a crook too Bobby VCP. Why don't you help the BO team instead of hindering them? Everyone is wondering. Just another idiot in on the scam, IMHO.

[BobbyVCP]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

No he won't he lost ALL credibility PERIOD continuing to display the biggest crook in the hobby of all times. BRENT MASTRO PWCC. Makes YOU a crook too Bobby VCP. Why don't you help the BO team instead of hindering them? Everyone is wondering. Just another idiot in on the scam, IMHO.

You know this is CRAZY.......

How am I hindering your precious BO Team?

Let me point out one VERY important FACT to you.

Worthpoint, PSA Auction Prices Realized, PWCC Market Prices

These 3 above all use the exact same API feed from eBay as we do so they get the exact same data and information that we do and can all post the exact same information that we do.

WHY IS IT THEY ALL CHOOSE NOT TO SHOW YOU THE BUYER INFORMATION

But we do????

So please tell be again how I am not helping your BO team and hindering their investigation.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

You know this is CRAZY.......

How am I hindering your precious BO Team?

Let me point out one VERY important FACT to you.

Worthpoint, PSA Auction Prices Realized, PWCC Market Prices

These 3 above all use the exact same API feed from eBay as we do so they get the exact same data and information that we do and can all post the exact same information that we do.

WHY IS IT THEY ALL CHOOSE NOT TO SHOW YOU THE BUYER INFORMATION

But we do????

So please tell be again how I am not helping your BO team and hindering their investigation.

PWCC doesn't show the buyer info? This is shocking. I am shocked.

Arthur

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

You know this is CRAZY.......

How am I hindering your precious BO Team?

Let me point out one VERY important FACT to you.

Worthpoint, PSA Auction Prices Realized, PWCC Market Prices

These 3 above all use the exact same API feed from eBay as we do so they get the exact same data and information that we do and can all post the exact same information that we do.

WHY IS IT THEY ALL CHOOSE NOT TO SHOW YOU THE BUYER INFORMATION

But we do????

So please tell be again how I am not helping your BO team and hindering their investigation.

It's not MY PRECIOUS BO TEAM", I'm banned from the site. I just call them as I see them....Making it harder for them to look up the pictures. I can tell you from using the site when I purchased my mantle, it wasn't user friendly in the first place, IMHO>ANd take the stupid PWCC banner down, it makes you look like an effin idiot, also IMHO.

[perezfan]

The timing of this change (especially with a more cumbersome ability to fully magnify the images) is the main thing that raised red flags.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

I am only a member on this board and only post on this board. Here is where VCP started 12 years ago. Here is a place that I respect their opinion and ideas and value the feedback given.

I hope this answers your question Peter_Spaeth

OK I am asking you the same question under my name, not in an accusatory way, just curious why there seems to be difficultly saving images that were not difficult to save before.

On a frankly more confrontational note, obviously you are not responding to the question I myself asked, which is why you are still promoting PWCC, since you don't by your own statements need their revenue.

[BobbyVCP]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

OK I am asking you the same question under my name, not in an accusatory way, just curious why there seems to be difficultly saving images that were not difficult to save before.

On a frankly more confrontational note, obviously you are not responding to the question I myself asked, which is why you are still promoting PWCC, since you don't by your own statements need their revenue.

Saving images? Not sure what you mean by this and did not know you could even do this on the old site. If you could it is new to me. Viewing images of past sales I can see we now have an image viewer so that you do not have to keep going back to the page and clicking.

In regards to PWCC and advertising. At the beginning of each year they purchase X amount of days for our side panel blitz program and pay for the whole year in advance in order to get a better rate. They have been doing this with us for the past 6 or 7 years now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If I had a website I would not want an ad from a fraudster to be the first thing people saw when they opened it. Take down the ad and refund the balance of his payment, how hard would that be? Is he going to sue you?

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I had a website I would not want an ad from a fraudster to be the first thing people saw when they opened it. Take down the ad and refund the balance of his payment, how hard would that be? Is he going to sue you?

And thus Peter Spaeth has so commanded. Sorry Bobby, I guess you're going to need to refund PWCC.

On a side note, could you let me know whether the search feature is getting fixed?

Thanks again.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

I am only a member on this board and only post on this board. Here is where VCP started 12 years ago. Here is a place that I respect their opinion and ideas and value the feedback given.

I hope this answers your question Peter_Spaeth

So to be clear, do you deny you are ConcernedCollec on Blowout? People might have ways of finding out, keep in mind.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So to be clear, do you deny you are ConcernedCollec on Blowout? People might have ways of finding out, keep in mind.

This is a good one but the KauaBB on CU is much better and what caused the Blowout outing. "Who is Bobby?" has a non-zero chance of getting made into a t-shirt.

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...new-vcp#latest

Arthur

ETA: But don't worry, I totally believe your entire Memorial Day BS story now after all of this. Get busted posting under an alt? Double-down and do it again! That's how honest folk work.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So to be clear, do you deny you are ConcernedCollec on Blowout? People might have ways of finding out, keep in mind.

*crickets chirping*

[JeremyW]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So to be clear, do you deny you are ConcernedCollec on Blowout? People might have ways of finding out, keep in mind.

Or kauaBB on PSA's site?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Personally I would not answer anonymous trolls if I were him. People who are not hiding behind a keyboard I would answer.

I would not characterize the guys who have found all these altered cards as trolls, with due respect.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would not characterize the guys who have found all these altered cards as trolls, with due respect.

Please don't put words in my mouth . There are a few good guys over there but there are a ton of trolls too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Please don't put words in my mouth . There are a few good guys over there but there are a ton of trolls too.

The guy asking Bobby the question was one of the guys outing the altered cards. You said to Bobby you would not reply to an anonymous troll. So it seemed a fair comment.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The guy asking Bobby the question was one of the guys outing the altered cards. You said to Bobby you would not reply to an anonymous troll. So it seemed a fair comment.

So the mods over there will out Bobby (if he was there) but not one of the trolls saying i sell drugs to kids? Great place. And those guys doing all of the outing could be Peter Nash or worse. How do you know they aren't? I imagine some of the guys are decent guys but without knowing who they are how do you know? I could almost guarantee some are low life criminals, but again, since the mods protect them there is no way to know. Cesspool with a few good guys if you ask me. No thanks. Btw, Did the guy(s) over there accusing Bobby have names next to their ids?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

So the mods over there will out Bobby (if he was there) but not one of the trolls saying i sell drugs to kids? Great place. And those guys doing all of the outing could be Peter Nash or worse. How do you know they aren't? I imagine some of the guys are decent guys but without knowing who they are how do you know? I could almost guarantee some are low life criminals, but again, since the mods protect them there is no way to know. Cesspool with a few good guys if you ask me. No thanks. Btw, Did the guy(s) over there accusing Bobby have names next to their ids?

I am not defending the whole concept of that board, I was only responding to a specific comment you made about one question asked there by one guy. I took your comment to imply that guy was a troll and I disagree.

That said, I fully support your policy of requiring names, as you know. But I've had lots of communications with the people on Blowout doing the outing and I either know who they are or am satisfied that they are acting with integrity. And their work really doesn't depend on who they are, pictures are pictures.

[thenextlevel]

Originally Posted by Leon

Cesspool with a few good guys if you ask me. No thanks

Wow, that’s painting with a broad brush. I didn’t know posting without your name attached classifies one as likely a scumbag.