Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Yeah, it would be a nice gesture... and maybe some day we'll get to that point. But when you consider the sheer number of cards that appear in any of the major Catalogue Auctions, they'd never have the time/resources to deeply research them all.

If you mean for them to simply spot-check the published lists of suspected altered cards.... then yes, that would probably be doable. But if you mean for them to conduct the actual research (like the guys on BO are doing), then it will likely never happen. I suppose they could hire a staff person in charge of research, but the added cost of implementing the process would probably just result in higher Buyer and Seller Premiums.

And isn't this what the TPAs are supposed to be doing, anyway? I know the current ones are failing badly, and if anyone is liable for recourse, it should be them.

Not accepting consignments from card doctors might help. Just sayin. I would guess more do than don't. There are a few that don't, to their credit.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not accepting consignments from card doctors might help. Just sayin. I would guess more do than don't. There are a few that don't, to their credit.

Now come to think of it, that would be a good starting point!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Now come to think of it, that would be a good starting point!

The same stakeholders who are going to fix the problem have been accepting them since day one. Many of them, that is.

[Johnny630]

How many collectors have enough restraint to no longer do business with any major AH who knowingly accepts consignment cards from known doctors along with ceasing any Newport Beach Opinion Giver Submissions until accepting responsibility /coming up with a viable solution to prevent this from continuing to happen on this large scale. . They have all be complacent in allowing this S&&T to go on this long.

Is what I’m asking for to much for these AH’s ?? AH’s mean Ass Ho$les

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

How many collectors have enough restraint to no longer do business with any major AH who knowingly accepts consignment cards from known doctors along with ceasing any Newport Beach Opinion Giver Submissions until accepting responsibility /coming up with a viable solution to prevent this from continuing to happen on this large scale. . They have all be complacent in allowing this S&&T to go on this long.

Is what I’m asking for to much for these AH’s ?? AH’s mean Ass Ho$les

Come to Chicago this week and see them lined up to give them their money.

[Scott L.]

What auction houses knowingly accept consignments from card doctors outside of PWCC? I'm happy to no longer do business with them if I knew who they were.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

How many collectors have enough restraint to no longer do business with any major AH who knowingly accepts consignment cards from known doctors along with ceasing any Newport Beach Opinion Giver Submissions until accepting responsibility /coming up with a viable solution to prevent this from continuing to happen on this large scale. . They have all be complacent in allowing this S&&T to go on this long.

Is what I’m asking for to much for these AH’s ?? AH’s mean Ass Ho$les

I have been doing that for many many years already. You can go back and search my posts. I have been calling PWCC and PSA a scam since I joined here and had been doing it way longer than that.

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Come to Chicago this week and see them lined up to give them their money.

The lemmings are many in this hobby.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Come to Chicago this week and see them lined up to give them their money.

You’re correct I’ve been saying this for weeks......until this affects their bottom line there will be zero change.....that’s just my thinking on it.