1993-94 topps black gold winners

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Ok, these are cool, and I totally missed them! I have read and re-read this thread, consulted Google, and checked ebay. After all of that, I am still a little foggy.

So, there's 44 in the set, and each card in the set has at least one variation/winner card (if that's the correct way to put it) accordingly?:

Winner A (1-11)
Winner B (12-22)
Winner C (23-33)
Winner D (34-44)
Winner AB (1-22)
Winner CD (23-44)
Winner ABCD (1-44)

So, for example, the first 11 players in the set would have four cards: the regular, Winner A, Winner AB, and Winner ABCD? Are the unused redemption checklist cards considered part of the "set?"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

Ok, these are cool, and I totally missed them! I have read and re-read this thread, consulted Google, and checked ebay. After all of that, I am still a little foggy.

So, there's 44 in the set, and each card in the set has at least one variation/winner card (if that's the correct way to put it) accordingly?:

Winner A (1-11)
Winner B (12-22)
Winner C (23-33)
Winner D (34-44)
Winner AB (1-22)
Winner CD (23-44)
Winner ABCD (1-44)

So, for example, the first 11 players in the set would have four cards: the regular, Winner A, Winner AB, and Winner ABCD? Are the unused redemption checklist cards considered part of the "set?"

I thought all the player cards are the same and the letters just referred to the group of player cards you would get in a sealed pack for redeeming the particular winner card, but I could be wrong. So, for example, with an ABCD winner card, you could redeem it for all 44 regular cards, but there was no difference between a player card in that pack and a player card in, say, an A pack.

So the total is 44 player cards, 7 unredeemed winner checklist cards, and 7 redeemed winner checklist cards that came with the sealed packs.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought all the player cards are the same and the letters just referred to the group of player cards you would get in a sealed pack for redeeming the particular winner card, but I could be wrong. So, for example, with an ABCD winner card, you could redeem it for all 44 regular cards, but there was no difference between a player card in that pack and a player card in, say, an A pack.



So the total is 44 player cards, 7 unredeemed winner checklist cards, and 7 redeemed winner checklist cards that came with the sealed packs.

Oh, so there are 44 cards and then there are A, B, C, D, AB, CD, and ABCD winner/ redemption cards. I was thinking there were multiple player cards. Now I get it. Thanks.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

Oh, so there are 44 cards and then there are A, B, C, D, AB, CD, and ABCD winner/ redemption cards. I was thinking there were multiple player cards. Now I get it. Thanks.

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The way you got the player cards was to redeem a winner card.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The way you got the player cards was to redeem a winner card.

Right, thanks.

One final question while I am obsessing over cards that can be had for about $1:

What is up with the Bonds from the 1994 Black Gold set #27? Why is it copyrighted 1993 on the reverse like the 1993 version?

Ebay item 153653763119

273880609680



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[swarmee]

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/..._Bonds/2076268

Some were printed with 1993 dates, some were corrected with 1994 (maybe the pack inserted vs. the redemptions?). Most of the sets during that time were printed in the winter where the designs may have been copyrighted just before printing in 1993, and some corrected for printing the following year. It's not just the Bonds, it's most cards in the set.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/..._Bonds/2076268



Some were printed with 1993 dates, some were corrected with 1994 (maybe the pack inserted vs. the redemptions?). Most of the sets during that time were printed in the winter where the designs may have been copyrighted just before printing in 1993, and some corrected for printing the following year. It's not just the Bonds, it's most cards in the set.

Thank you! "Mystery" solved!

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[ALR-bishop]

I hope Peter is right, because that is what I have, 44 player cards and 2 versions of each winner card for each year. The winner cards have pictures of the player cards on the front. The backs differ, checklists on the redeemed cards and advertising and offer on the un redeemed cards. ( and certified or no certification on front). You can find examples of the winner cards and player cards on ebay. The sets are very nice and inexpensive unless you are foolishly determined to get all 14 winner cards, like me. Took almost 5 years

Peter---I need to talk to Leon about putting the 5 year bump rule up next to the need for a name in a post