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The Wagner of modern cards is the 2003 Exquisite Jordan/LeBron Logoman or the 2009 Bowman Mike Trout Superfractor, both 1/1.
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A 1/1 is too rare to be the modern equivalent of the t206 Wagner in my opinion. It would have to be something like this Jeter, or a Lebron, Brady, or Jordan card that can at least become available once every year or two.
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Just a matter of when, not if that person has Buyers remorse. No long term market for that (imho).
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So let me get this straight —this is one of 30 of this card. I know it is a PSA10, but it is one of 30. The buyer of this card believes that this is a good investment? Let me think, Ruth rookie or Jeter rookie. I guess I’ll go with the Jeter because his card is shinier. Wow, just wow!
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Eddie-If I had $200 million to spend on cards I still wouldn't pay $200,000 for that Jeter card (or $20,000 or $2,000 for that matter).
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I saw that this card had ended above 200K and just shook my head. Not because I am more of a vintage person and my thoughts swirled with what vintage cards I could have bought with that money but rather why anyone would pay that kind of money for a card that is so....new.
I know...to each their own but I just have a hard time wrapping my mind around this one. But I guess if I had screw you money spending this kind of cash on a modern card would not be a big deal. I just hope the buyer didn't purchase this card with the intent of flipping it because I cannot see the ceiling being much higher. |
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I like when modern cards sell for big money. What’s good for modern is good for the whole hobby. Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 10-18-2019 at 07:57 PM. |
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Jeter will always be a debatable figure from a historical standpoint. Not debating historical significance but I would bet if you asked any Yankee fan born after 1970 who their all time favorite Yankee is, a strong majority of them would say Derek Jeter. Every New Yorker in their 40s grew up with Derek Jeter. 4 championships from 1996-2000 and Jeter was the center of it all. Just given the modern media landscape the Jeter name is probably bigger than any pre war type player to the generic baseball fan. Again not debating baseball statistics but derek Jeter definitely has historical significance. I think we’ll see it again in December when he’s the second unanimous HOFer and in July when Cooperstown has the largest attendance ever, as anticipated. That’s a lot of fans and a lot of money to follow. Jeter, Jordan, Brady different level to the modern investor.
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For me, it's all the various "rare" Jeter cards printed in the 90's that makes these prices a bit silly. Like the '93 SP Foil Jeter card, for example. Didn't a PSA 10 sell for $99,000 last year? And there are 22 of them graded 10 by PSA .... oh, and not to mention, there have been 253 graded 9.5 by BGS!!! How about the ones that haven't been graded yet? Maybe a dozen more PSA 10's? Perhaps some BGS Black Labels yet to be graded? Last edited by JunkyJoe; 10-18-2019 at 10:10 PM. |
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Absolutely mind boggling. For $202K I'd have every spotted tie OJ and still have money to buy a bunch of other cool cards.
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I am sure we've all bought cards because we liked them, not necessarily because we thought they were a great investment.
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This reminds me of a T-shirt I once got as a gift, as an avid golfer. It was a picture of a Herman cartoon Two guys are holding golf clubs, while a single guy in the background is carrying a fishing rod.
The one "Herman" golfer says to the other "Can you imagine some idiot getting up at this time of the morning just to go fishing?"
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But that certainly is a lot for really any card. It is fun to follow these auctions and often see them just explode right before the hammer
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We don't know who the buyer of the Jeter card is; maybe it is Nat Turner or maybe it is someone else. But I don't understand at all how you can say the buyer will absolutely have buyer's remorse over dropping a couple hundred grand when there are people at the top levels of the hobby with a net worth measured in eight or nine figures.
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Just a few weeks ago Justin Bieber posted some of his Pokemon PSA graded cards. I just looked it up and it is estimated his net worth is 265 million. If someone in this position wants a card they can pay whatever they want. The other thing that people forget is that the government is going to take half. Enjoy the funds while you can because you could lose half on every purchase and your heirs will be in the same place. |
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HALF? David, how do you figure HALF?
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I stand corrected. With the Trump tax cuts they lowered the top rate to 40%.
It should have been clear I was referencing someone like Bieber and with his net worth as a single guy the first 11.4 million would be sheltered and all other assets taxed at 40% on death. Last edited by Dpeck100; 10-19-2019 at 01:23 PM. |
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Just because you, or other board members don't understand the significance of this card does not mean there is no long term market for it.
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