Will this stock market madness affect cards?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by packs

I think it comes down to why people are protesting and if it carries equal weight compared to something like going to the gym.

Fair point......but I just don't like the this is ok but that is not ok (basically told by the media what is ok and what isn't), I'm not saying drop the social distancing, drop the masks, drop everything, 100% back to how it was.....I'm just saying with what we now know, and with 40K jamming a park to protest, if that is fine, then EVERYTHING should be fine.

Simple answer for those who do not agree: Stay Home.

Let everyone else have the option....have choice.

Let's go back to right before May 1, remember how CNN and several said Georgia is making a HUGE mistake re-opening, it's going to be a disaster. That Governor got pounded.

Welp....over a month later and that sure didn't happen......nor is there mention of it. But had it turned into a disaster, we would have been pounded by that by the media.

And if Baseball players don't get their act together soon.......they are going to let the NHL & NBA show them up. And NBA and NHL players are sweating on each other, slamming into each other, covering each other......baseball by design is already socially distanced, not one fielder is near another fielder.....and the batter to the catcher, well the catcher already has a mask on. How baseball doesn't play comes down to just plain GREED.

I'm sorry but I'll play for my full salary, but not with a paycut, doesn't fly....how many got furloughed, lost their job, or took paycuts. Get your asses out there and do your jobs. Plenty of minor leaguers would gladly come up and take their spots to have a shot. And think of all of the jobs they then are holding up, vendors in and outside the park, security positions, parking lot attendents, etc. etc.....and a lot of these are minority positions as the stadiums are in the big cities.....you want to do something for this movement get your asses back to work to get these people money coming in (and off the street).

And again if you are a player or coach worried, simply answer: Stay Home.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Fair point......but I just don't like the this is ok but that is not ok (basically told by the media what is ok and what isn't), I'm not saying drop the social distancing, drop the masks, drop everything, 100% back to how it was.....I'm just saying with what we now know, and with 40K jamming a park to protest, if that is fine, then EVERYTHING should be fine.

Simple answer for those who do not agree: Stay Home.

Let everyone else have the option....have choice.

Let's go back to right before May 1, remember how CNN and several said Georgia is making a HUGE mistake re-opening, it's going to be a disaster. That Governor got pounded.

Welp....over a month later and that sure didn't happen......nor is there mention of it. But had it turned into a disaster, we would have been pounded by that by the media.

And if Baseball players don't get their act together soon.......they are going to let the NHL & NBA show them up. And NBA and NHL players are sweating on each other, slamming into each other, covering each other......baseball by design is already socially distanced, not one fielder is near another fielder.....and the batter to the catcher, well the catcher already has a mask on. How baseball doesn't play comes down to just plain GREED.

I'm sorry but I'll play for my full salary, but not with a paycut, doesn't fly....how many got furloughed, lost their job, or took paycuts. Get your asses out there and do your jobs. Plenty of minor leaguers would gladly come up and take their spots to have a shot. And think of all of the jobs they then are holding up, vendors in and outside the park, security positions, parking lot attendents, etc. etc.....and a lot of these are minority positions as the stadiums are in the big cities.....you want to do something for this movement get your asses back to work to get these people money coming in (and off the street).

And again if you are a player or coach worried, simply answer: Stay Home.

You keep bringing up things you want to do, but nobody wants to be at the protests. Nobody wanted what happened to George Floyd to have happened to him or anyone else. Again, I would ask that you consider the motivation behind the things you’re comparing.

[Shoeless Moe]

Biden has been in politics his whole life, since 1973, what has he done to help the black live matters movement, not necessarily named that all those years, but obviously the police bias has been there all that time.

He even served under a black president. And all this was not addressed then. Or if addressed, obviously not enough done.

So now at 77 he's making this his thing?????

Shouldn't he have made this his thing 6 months ago? He just wanted their vote, not to address anything. Now 'cuz it's in the news he's on it.

Just amazing he is the savior and Trump is the evil empire.

I'm still holding out hope for 3rd party entry, but doubtful that will happen at this point.

I am very anxious for their debates. Gonna be two grumpy old men name calling. Stocking up on the popcorn now.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Biden has been in politics his whole life, since 1973, what has he done to help the black live matters movement, not necessarily named that all those years, but obviously the police bias has been there all that time.

He even served under a black president. And all this was not addressed then. Or if addressed, obviously not enough done.

So now at 77 he's making this his thing?????

Shouldn't he have made this his thing 6 months ago? He just wanted their vote, not to address anything. Now 'cuz it's in the news he's on it.

Just amazing he is the savior and Trump is the evil empire.

I'm still holding out hope for 3rd party entry, but doubtful that will happen at this point.

I am very anxious for their debates. Gonna be two grumpy old men name calling. Stocking up on the popcorn now.

Biden also commented how obama is well spoken...

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Biden also commented how obama is well spoken...

Wait......confused.....which doesn't take much.....what do you mean?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Wait......confused.....which doesn't take much.....what do you mean?

google it

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

google it

Ah....I see it now.......now it's starting to make sense why Biden is hiding in his basement & has kept quiet for the most part. Whenever they (Biden or Trump) talk, they just both sound like stooges (shameless plug).

Trump can wrap up this election if he just shows empathy (which won't happen) and/or puts together a commission to address the racial bias problem.

The protesters with the "Defund the Police" signs are just morons. Yah let the community police themselves, that's a great idea.....please test that FAR from my house. Should last about a week. If that.

I was just get used to the New Normal, and now we're gonna have a New New Normal, I can't keep up.

[cardsagain74]

It almost feels like o/t to mention it in this thread after all the politics , but the only "stock market madness" lately has been how insanely strong the market technicals have been since the late March lows.

Since 2009 the big money has stayed invested like their money has impunity there. Never seen anything like it in all my years of trading (or before)

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by packs

You keep bringing up things you want to do, but nobody wants to be at the protests. Nobody wanted what happened to George Floyd to have happened to him or anyone else. Again, I would ask that you consider the motivation behind the things you’re comparing.

First off did you lose your job? did you get furloughed? did you take a pay cut?

Guessing the answer is No to all of the above. So if not, it's very easy to say keep all these things closed.

The things I want to do is what America wants to do, and all the workers and business owners want us to do, so they can get back to work, and not be told they can't because the Virus takes precedent. Yet Protesting/Looting take precedent to the Virus. Then the Virus.....mmmm not so much. Complete media double standard.

I get it, it's a VERY important issue. But all those Mayors and Governors who said we ALL will die if Georgia opens, and those who gasped at the Ozarks pool party, and condemned the Spring Breakers, but if it's a "Cause" then its ok to not social distance etc, and throw everything they said about saving/protecting lives out the window. Complete media/political double standard.

And what Jake said is true, this is the Perfect Storm, you have everything closed so The Place To Be (to quote Frank Costanza) is to be at these protests. A majority I would say are college students who are out of school, watch this die down quite a bit when schools go back in August. Watch. You also have lots of people of out work so they are going to these as well. Open things up then more of these people protesting will be at work not the protests.
And again there are no bars open, no sporting events, not much else to do. What can you do....go to the protests.....hey now there is music and dancing, it's becoming a party, and since everything else is closed.......The Place To Be.

And again this is a great cause that needs to be addressed, and not just forgotten when the next story knocks it out of the media's focus, but people WANT to be there don't fool yourself. They want to be part of this movement, and if it makes a difference finally GREAT!

[packs]

Well I would suggest you talk to some people participating in the protests and see what they have to say.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Well I would suggest you talk to some people participating in the protests and see what they have to say.

i just saw a bunch of college kids at the corner with signs....i am going to assume they dont know how many unarmed white and black men were killed by police last year....they are out of school right now

to me its easy to protest when you are under 22 or whatever years old and school is out and you have zero responsibility and everyone gives you props for 'protesting' especially on day 14 or whatever when everyone is lauded for how great it is to protest

i think you would be surprised how much has changed in the lifes of protestors now versus the protestors in the 1960s ...the racial makeup of the mayors/state attorneys/national guard/police is a lot different then just 40 years ago but you can correct me if i am wrong

its a worthy cause, i not saying there is no racial injustice but to say its like the 1960s when people were risking their jobs and health and not getting instagram follows and likes and celebrity endorsements is a whole different situation ...and the amount of money raised is amazing

if we lower funding on police are we prepared for them to stop using the body cameras.... i thought that was a great thing to do....i think in the floyd matter , there would of been a lot of justice and body cameras would of been available and lawsuits regardless the protests...not sure police departments will want to continue to condone behavior which costs their departments 100s of millions of dollars in lawsuits. ..it used to be when charges were not never brought or the case was lost in court then you would see protesting...

also forget getting millions in future lawsuits when the money stops going into police departments.....i hope people have thought it out..

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i just saw a bunch of college kids at the corner with signs....i am going to assume they dont know how many unarmed white and black men were killed by police last year....they are out of school right now

to me its easy to protest when you are under 22 or whatever years old and school is out and you have zero responsibility and everyone gives you props for 'protesting' especially on day 14 or whatever when everyone is lauded for how great it is to protest

i think you would be surprised how much has changed in the lifes of protestors now versus the protestors in the 1960s ...the racial makeup of the mayors/state attorneys/national guard/police is a lot different then just 40 years ago but you can correct me if i am wrong

its a worthy cause, i not saying there is no racial injustice but to say its like the 1960s when people were risking their jobs and health and not getting instagram follows and likes and celebrity endorsements is a whole different situation ...and the amount of money raised is amazing

if we lower funding on police are we prepared for them to stop using the body cameras.... i thought that was a great thing to do....i think in the floyd matter , there would of been a lot of justice and body cameras would of been available and lawsuits regardless the protests...not sure police departments will want to continue to condone behavior which costs their departments 100s of millions of dollars in lawsuits. ..it used to be when charges were not never brought or the case was lost in court then you would see protesting...

also forget getting millions in future lawsuits when the money stops going into police departments.....i hope people have thought it out..

Well said...protests used to be when a verdict came out that people didn't like...someone was elected they didn't like....

In this instance the cops got fired and are being tried for murder. Yet the protest continue. Will they protest if the cops are found guilty too? Makes you wonder.

[gawaintheknight]

That may have been how they started, but they have now become protests against systemic racism and police violence across the country. Kind of like the Boston Tea Party - it may have started off as a protest against a tax on tea, but it became something a lot bigger.

Ted

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well said...protests used to be when a verdict came out that people didn't like...someone was elected they didn't like....

In this instance the cops got fired and are being tried for murder. Yet the protest continue. Will they protest if the cops are found guilty too? Makes you wonder.