2022 topps fat packs slim packs

[steve B]

They did put a dummy insert in each pack at one time. Maybe that got too expensive?
There was also a stretch where the packs with thicker inserts contained fewer cards overall so if the normal count was 15 and the special inserts were three cards thick the pack only got 12 cards.

That led to people thumbing the packs, looking for ones where part of the stack wouldn't fan out. They found the inserts, but usually damaged all the other cards....

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by steve B

They did put a dummy insert in each pack at one time. Maybe that got too expensive?

I remember that was when they had an RF chip on those dummies to avoid theft also. A simple app can find those and you know to just set it down and go for the one without.

[Deertick]

I have opened packs with chips. I have also opened packs with 4 inserts in a skinny pack. Haven't got a relic, although I have opened thick packs with no dummy? Seems randomized to some extent.

Everyone has always searched retail somewhat. If you picked up a 74 cello with Jon Matlack on top and there was a Nolan Ryan the next row under, what are you gonna say, "Well, the next guy got lucky"?

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Deertick

I have opened packs with chips. I have also opened packs with 4 inserts in a skinny pack. Haven't got a relic, although I have opened thick packs with no dummy? Seems randomized to some extent.

Everyone has always searched retail somewhat. If you picked up a 74 cello with Jon Matlack on top and there was a Nolan Ryan the next row under, what are you gonna say, "Well, the next guy got lucky"?

I think you really can't count cello packs, we all know that the last in the box always had Joe Shlabotnik on the front. Wax searching was a bit more suspect, especially when it was done by a shop owner prior to putting the box out.

It was completely tasteless and 99.9% Fleer's fault that it was impossible to pull a Jordan as the dealers could open the box and pull them with no effort in most situations due to some of the worst collation in history. Which is also why buying sealed 86' Fleer single packs is nuts.

I still have a large group of scalded wax wrappers from my childhood LCS from good ol' Elliot using an iron to reseal them. Classy dude.

[ALR-bishop]

Each year I buy a Topps series 1 and 2 pack and an update pack ( as well as a Heritage base and high series pack) to keep with that year's set I try to avoid "fat", "thick" and "hot" packs because I do not care what is in them. But it is sometimes tough to find packs that sellers don't deem "hot". And I myself do not know one from the other. Maybe I need or hire Justin and G as an agent for such purchases

[Bill77]

Before Fleer went under in the early 2000's you could easily find the hit in a new retail box if you were the first to get to the box. I managed to do it twice in a row, because they did nothing to hide the thick cards and always put them in the same spot in the box. Donruss was the better with thick and thin packs in the boxes with the real hit being just slightly thinner than the thick packs. Upper Deck and Topps were the only companies that didn't give away the easy hits by not making the memorabilia cards overly thick in the early 2000's. I remember watching idiots trying to feel for the thick cards damn near bending packs in half in the process and just tossing the packs back. I have a jersey card that got bent by one of them that still couldn't feel the card after twisting and bending the pack.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bill77

Before Fleer went under in the early 2000's you could easily find the hit in a new retail box if you were the first to get to the box. I managed to do it twice in a row, because they did nothing to hide the thick cards and always put them in the same spot in the box. Donruss was the better with thick and thin packs in the boxes with the real hit being just slightly thinner than the thick packs. Upper Deck and Topps were the only companies that didn't give away the easy hits by not making the memorabilia cards overly thick in the early 2000's. I remember watching idiots trying to feel for the thick cards damn near bending packs in half in the process and just tossing the packs back. I have a jersey card that got bent by one of them that still couldn't feel the card after twisting and bending the pack.

i guess they could just not let people 'handle' the packs...

[JustinD]

Ah the general public...