The Mets - Same crap as the last crap

[packs]

I would guess that both Gilbert and Clifford are more impactful than Acuna. Acuna is blocked by Lindor and then blocked again by Mauricio. I'm not really sure what the Mets interest in him is.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

I would guess that both Gilbert and Clifford are more impactful than Acuna. Acuna is blocked by Lindor and then blocked again by Mauricio. I'm not really sure what the Mets interest in him is.

My guess is that Mauricio is not coming up to play SS, as they have played him at 2b, 3b and OF the last couple of years. Perhaps Acuña is looking 3, 4 years ahead when Lindor's defensive skills have eroded a bit?

[packs]

I don't think you'd want to suppress a 21 year old shortstop for that long. It seems like Lindor isn't going anywhere. He's signed through 2032 and if he has to move from short, I don't know where he goes.

I'm guessing Mauricio will take over at second eventually, which is why I think he still blocks Acuna.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think you'd want to suppress a 21 year old shortstop for that long. It seems like Lindor isn't going anywhere. He's signed through 2032 and if he has to move from short, I don't know where he goes.

DH? Or Steve could always eat 80% of his salary and move him...

[packs]

There's always DH but the NL is going to catch up to the AL in terms of having a monster on the bench every half inning who's there to hit 35 to 40 homers. Lindor would be a pretty weak DH in that world.

[mrreality68]

I am happy with all 3 of those prospects. Acuna was rated the highest of them all at #44.
Happy with those 3 just not happy that the Mets did not get any high potential pitching prospects.
Especially they now have 2 monster holes in the top of their line up next year.
The pitching market is not that great this off season except for Othani of course

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by packs

I would guess that both Gilbert and Clifford are more impactful than Acuna. Acuna is blocked by Lindor and then blocked again by Mauricio. I'm not really sure what the Mets interest in him is.

When you are a shortstop, you are typically the most versatile player on the field, in that you can play several other positions. As this article points out, Acuna could play 2b (freeing up McNiel to take over for Canha) or CF like his older brother.

Few other position players can fill the role of a shortstop, but a shortstop can fill the role of several other positions usually.

[packs]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

When you are a shortstop, you are typically the most versatile player on the field, in that you can play several other positions. As this article points out, Acuna could play 2b (freeing up McNiel to take over for Canha) or CF like his older brother.

Few other position players can fill the role of a shortstop, but a shortstop can fill the role of several other players usually.

I understand the potential for that, but it's only potential. Acuna has played a total of 4 games in the outfield in the minors. Gilbert and Clifford are natural outfielders. The Mets also already have Baty as their future 3B and Mauricio behind Lindor, who I assume they will shift to 2B. I don't see them moving Nimmo out of center for Acuna either as he's signed through 2030.

My guess is that Acuna is ultimately trade bait for another player, which isn't a bad thing either.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by packs

I understand the potential for that, but it's only potential. Acuna has played a total of 4 games in the outfield in the minors. Gilbert and Clifford are natural outfielders. The Mets also already have Baty as their future 3B and Mauricio behind Lindor, who I assume they will shift to 2B. I don't see them moving Nimmo out of center for Acuna either as he's signed through 2030.

My guess is that Acuna is ultimately trade bait for another player, which isn't a bad thing either.

I'm fine with trade bait as well. Sometimes you just get the best talent you can, and figure out how the pieces fit afterwards.

[packs]

It's how he was most valuable to the Rangers being that they have Seager already. I'm sure the Mets would be delighted to flip Acuna for a put us over the edge starter of their own a season or so down the road.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I'm fine with trade bait as well. Sometimes you just get the best talent you can, and figure out how the pieces fit afterwards.

I would prefer they keep Ocuna and even make him the DH and back up other positions or rotate to allow others to DH and stay fresh and then Ocuna covers their positions that day.

Get rid of Vogelbach waste of a DH. He walks a lot but can only walk once he is on base

[tod41]

With the dust settling, feel much better about the direction of this team. This was needed. They won't hit on all of these prospects, of course. But the process is better. They will likely sign Yamamodo if posted. They will likely tank to a very high protected pick in 24. Watch out for Vargas - he might end up being the jewel of the trading deadline.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by tod41

With the dust settling, feel much better about the direction of this team. This was needed. They won't hit on all of these prospects, of course. But the process is better. They will likely sign Yamamodo if posted. They will likely tank to a very high protected pick in 24. Watch out for Vargas - he might end up being the jewel of the trading deadline.

Yup, this just feels like a better direction. It’s really tough to buy a championship. It can happen but chances are you’ll end up with a team that doesn’t play like a team. Having a few guys that played together in the minors and then into their primes in mlb is very underrated (no stats for that) and something the Mets have lacked.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by tod41

With the dust settling, feel much better about the direction of this team. This was needed. They won't hit on all of these prospects, of course. But the process is better. They will likely sign Yamamodo if posted. They will likely tank to a very high protected pick in 24. Watch out for Vargas - he might end up being the jewel of the trading deadline.

I agree but we will have to wait and See. Cohen came out and said that they will be competitive next year will they build towards 25/26.

I would prefer to do it with someone other than Eppler but we will see what the off season brings us

whoever they go after I hope they are younger and not injury prone.