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Old 09-21-2023, 08:14 PM
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Their eye appeal ratings were brilliant and ahead of their time. I realize that has always been an unpopular opinion and yeah I think they are a shady outfit to say the least. But the eye appeal ratings generated tremendous results at auction because the cards tended to have, well, great eye appeal.

I made this point a few years ago and a board regular freaked out about it. But I stand by it to this day. This does not excuse them from being involved in card doctoring, and many of the cards with strong eye appeal rankings surely were altered, but again, great concept. They could have built a great business on it but greed got in the way.
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Old 09-21-2023, 08:47 PM
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If a card has great centering, or otherwise has strong eye appeal, and you put up a good scan, why the hell does anyone need a sticker to tell them that???????? Are people really that helpless?

I suspect the stickers were mostly awarded to insiders and a high percentage were altered. So maybe they did serve the purpose of steering those who cared about altered cards AWAY from those examples.
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If a card has great centering, or otherwise has strong eye appeal, and you put up a good scan, why the hell does anyone need a sticker to tell them that???????? Are people really that helpless?
Yes. A majority of hobbyists evidently need validation from a corporation for anything and everything.
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Yes. A majority of hobbyists evidently need validation from a corporation for anything and everything.
It wasn’t that long ago, was it, that Brentsy was on top of the world.
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It wasn’t that long ago, was it, that Brentsy was on top of the world.
A short reign thankfully, brought down by his criminality and.... oh wait, no, that didn't happen.
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It wasn’t that long ago, was it, that Brentsy was on top of the world.


Still is, just for the eliti(st ) few!
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Do the cards get high prices because of the sticker, or do the cards get high prices because they genuinely look nice? PWCC stickers may draw extra attention to the card, but I tend to think these cards sell on their own merits, not because of the sticker attached to the slab.
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Their eye appeal ratings were brilliant and ahead of their time. I realize that has always been an unpopular opinion and yeah I think they are a shady outfit to say the least. But the eye appeal ratings generated tremendous results at auction because the cards tended to have, well, great eye appeal.

I made this point a few years ago and a board regular freaked out about it. But I stand by it to this day. This does not excuse them from being involved in card doctoring, and many of the cards with strong eye appeal rankings surely were altered, but again, great concept. They could have built a great business on it but greed got in the way.
I would agree, the eye appeal sticker was mostly when they were selling on eBay. I always would shrug and say yep, that has great eye appeal but would always make me wonder, "is eye appeal a skill that other people don't have that would warrant an eye appeal specialist?".
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I would agree, the eye appeal sticker was mostly when they were selling on eBay. I always would shrug and say yep, that has great eye appeal but would always make me wonder, "is eye appeal a skill that other people don't have that would warrant an eye appeal specialist?".
They had this long writeup on the electronic version of the sticker about how they’ve seen billions of cards and so they know a superior example when they see one.

I think my favorite part of the whole thing was how they had a couple of spelling errors in their writeup. I emailed them about it once and they told me to mind my own business.
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