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Old 01-17-2024, 08:49 AM
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Most Topps cards do not use several differently cropped images as a variation; there are some from certain sheet layouts like the 58 Bunning, but that's not a normal print defect that can happen. A different cropping of the image is a different design of the card. That it is small does not make it meaningless or non-existent.
The discs were clearly issued 2 separate years- that is not in question. So the question is how to differentiate the players that were in both sets and used the same/very similar images. I didn't carefully compare all of them. I did so with the Clemente. There is a cropping difference that makes it easy to differentiate the 1967 disc from the 1968 disc.

Not sure where you are going with the idea of regular Topps cards from a single year having potentially different cropping variations nor how that is relevant to the discussion about the discs?
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Cool topic. Here's a contribution to the pile of "one knowns" being shared here... Of the 19 currently known signed 1952 Topps Mantles, this is the only one with a "playing days" autograph. Signed on Friday March 29, 1968, at Payne Field in Sarasota FL, before a Spring Training game with the White Sox. Though we'll never know what could be lurking in someone's attic or basement out there, it tickles my imagination to consider the possibility that, based on the 19 that have surfaced, this could be the first '52T card that Mick signed


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Wow I had no idea that there is only 19 Mantle rookies autographed… I thought the number would be much higher!
Very cool one of a kind piece !
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Thanks. Yes, 19 signed 1952 Topps and 29 signed 1951 Bowmans— though it is worth noting that the overwhelming majority of those signed '51 Bowmans have rather serious eye appeal issues. Either the card is extremely OC, blurry, or beat up, or the auto can be faded. So the effective pop on the signed '51 Bowman in terms of pretty examples is closer to that of the 1952 Topps.
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The discs were clearly issued 2 separate years- that is not in question. So the question is how to differentiate the players that were in both sets and used the same/very similar images. I didn't carefully compare all of them. I did so with the Clemente. There is a cropping difference that makes it easy to differentiate the 1967 disc from the 1968 disc.

Not sure where you are going with the idea of regular Topps cards from a single year having potentially different cropping variations nor how that is relevant to the discussion about the discs?
...Read the post I quoted above the reply and it will all start to make sense what is being said and by who...
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The discs were clearly issued 2 separate years- that is not in question. So the question is how to differentiate the players that were in both sets and used the same/very similar images. I didn't carefully compare all of them. I did so with the Clemente. There is a cropping difference that makes it easy to differentiate the 1967 disc from the 1968 disc.
Howard, I posted about the differences awhile back on my blog, you're even name-checked! https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/202...nt-eleven.html

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Howard, I posted about the differences awhile back on my blog, you're even name-checked! https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/202...nt-eleven.html
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I'm begging the OP, for the love of God, please edit the title of your thread. That floating space and the bad grammar is breaking my frickin' brain!!

Change:
Show us a “ only one know of” card

To:
Show us an “only one that's known of” card
(Which I'm quite certain also suffers grammatically, but is infinitely better.)
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Does anyone have any “cards” or such, that maybe “the only one know?”
For example a fellow collector has a full 1960 Bazooka box with Clemente… and we are pretty sure or it’s highly unlikely another one exist.
I had at one time a 1960 Rawlings Advisory staff photo of Brooks Robinson Standing that fellow Brooks collectors have never seen that example. That could be 1/1.
Just curious what rarities are out there especially with player collectors.
Perhaps a long shot here but I got this photo in a collection of “Advisory Staff” 8x10’s that i have stashed away and always thought it was a “standing” version of Brooks but it does not include the typical inset Rawlings logo BUT it has the same image as his color Rawlings premium and prominently features his glove.

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Default Brooks B/W Staff Advisory

I have that same black and white Brooks photo. PSA would not grade. I am not sure why.
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Default Brooks 1967 and 1968 Discs

Not one of a kind but thought to share. Rarely seen.
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I have that same black and white Brooks photo. PSA would not grade. I am not sure why.
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Doesn't your Brooks Rawlings photo example have the white box below with the Rawlings Advisory Staff notation and the Rawlings info.?
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Not one of a kind but thought to share. Rarely seen.
I dislike you very much today for posting the '68
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Go to your original post, hit the Edit button, and then hit Go Advanced and VOILA!! you can correct the thread title in no time flat.
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Scott, I had to go look. No Rawlings Staff Advisory box at bottom. I tried to grade but they said no. Might be a BW copy.
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This is the only version of this card with these printing anomalies I have ever seen. The team photograph is printed on the non gloss side of the card stock and the back of the card is printed on the glossy side of the card stock. There is also a wet transfer of the back of the card on the front of the card.
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quitcrab---might be fun to change the title of the thread to "Post your favorite common card" to see what happens then
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This is probably the 1 and only Presentation Board for the 1980 Topps Coins
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Cool piece of Topps history! Never seen the coin board before.
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Still have not seen another 63 Fleer such as this card.
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Can you explain the green front? Keep me in mind if you sell. Very cool.
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I would guess it’s part of the wet sheet transfer since the green ‘BROOKS ROBINSON’ and ‘MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD’ are visible on the front too.
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Looks like the front and back was printed on one side. Pretty cool
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Here is one from Cuba during the 53 - 54 season of Dick Sisler when he played for Havana, I never seen another one intact with stamp from that season I purchased this at Collingswood Flea Market in NJ in the late 1990’s
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Pretty sure this is the only 1949 S&K card that Lefty ever signed:



Never seen another of these either:



1982 Hank Aaron from Korea:



No more of these either:



An Israeli Cassius Clay ca. 1970:



1951 Ringside salesman sample with Rocky Marciano RC on it:



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Some Great stuff Exihibitman !
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Late 1950s Cleveland Indians Baseball Jeans PC of Rocky Colavito. Presumably given away at in-store events to promote sale of these team-affiliated blue jeans with patch and team belt. The belts show up every so often on eBay, but cards are scarce. A product of Kits Mfg Co
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Adam, I never grow tired of seeing your signed S&K O'Doul. But a complete signed set was recently sold on ebay, so I don't think yours is 1 of 1 any longer (though the scans on ebay are blurry and it's hard to see what really was signed).

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Here's a 1940 Play Ball printed with color.
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Not a card but one of a kind autograph during the Miss America Pageant in Atlantic City NJ it was signed by Nancy Moore Miss South Carolina when I met her as a kid with my Dad during the NJ Fireman’s Convention
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Default 1963 Jello Original art

I know an unopened box of 1963 Jello with a Brooks Robinson card on the back recently sold for BIG $$$$. While that may be the only Brooks Robinson known unopened of all the thousands of boxes that were produced, here is a true 1 of 1.

Shown for your viewing pleasure is original Jello camera ready production art for the Jello baseball set with the Brooks Robinson and 4 other HOFer's Ashburn, Ford, Cepeda and Mathews and a similar portfolio with Killebrew, Marichal, Roberts, Frank Robinson and Aparicio I have similar ones for Post Baseball as well

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Phenomenal one-of-a-kind copy art poster board lay-outs used in the production of the 1963 JELL-O gelatin baseball card promotion. Each illustration board is impeccably preserved in the original hard cover folio and identifies the gelatin package(s) on which each card is to appear, while the paste-up sheets reflect General Foods art department proofing notations. Each illustration board and individual card lay-out is oversized in comparison to standard box panel and card dimensions, measuring approximately 5" X 3?."

Unlike the 1963 Post cereal poster board lay-outs, the JELL-O mock-ups are aligned in 2 columns of 4 cards (total of 6 for the 3 ounce packages, and 3 columns of 3 cards (total of 9) for the 6 ounce packages. These illustration boards were then sent to rotogravure printers to produce the plates that ultimately yielded the individual JELL-O packages on the grocer's shelf. Original Kodachrome prints of players appearing in the set, which feature the photography of Art Shay. Advanced collectors will also marvel at the photograph variations attendant to cropping of the prints and placement of the photos within the overlay sheets.
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These are the only two listed in the SCD. I believe the previous owner of these worked with Bob Lemke to get them added.


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Only one I’ve ever seen autographed by all 3, although I’m not totally sure about Rivers
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This is the only one I have...at least that I know of.
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