Updated: First Crap Interaction with the New SGC

[brianp-beme]

There is a big difference in eye appeal between the two. The fact that a superior looking trimmed example with more of the borders intact sold for just over the pricing threshold (the huge pricing differences at grading card companies for the different levels of perceived value are just plain nonsensical) should not make this still neat card be considered also at this higher level.


brianp(arker)-beme

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

There is a big difference in eye appeal between the two. The fact that a superior looking trimmed example with more of the borders intact sold for just over the pricing threshold (the huge pricing differences at grading card companies for the different levels of perceived value are just plain nonsensical) should not make this still neat card be considered also at this higher level.


brianp(arker)-beme

And the level is $3500 anyway for the $250 fee, not $3000, so it's not even close on those comps, much less a worse card.

[Exhibitman]

That sort of haggling isn't new with SGC. At one National, I brought them a card I'd gotten for $500 and they insisted that it was worth enough to 4x my on-site grading costs. I haggled like hell with them and paid 2x instead but I wasn't happy about it. A big name iconic card is just the sort of item they'd squeeze.

[rhettyeakley]

A raw/ungraded extremely trimmed card isn’t a comp with a graded psa 1 (numerical grade)

Pure money grab.

That being said, they own the field now so if you want to play the game you gotta play by their rules I suppose.

[ALBB]

Yea, that's painful,

I don't get it, a card like that.. with them asking for more money....are they paying a more higher salary grader to look at it ?

A card in that shape ,Id think its the same ( I dont know 10 minute evaluation) time frame to go over it

Ive never been a graded collector, but it does seem like a bit of a gouge job

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by ALBB

Yea, that's painful,

I don't get it, a card like that.. with them asking for more money....are they paying a more higher salary grader to look at it ?

A card in that shape ,Id think its the same ( I dont know 10 minute evaluation) time frame to go over it

Ive never been a graded collector, but it does seem like a bit of a gouge job

I doubt it would take 10 minutes for a grader on that card.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I doubt it would take 10 minutes for a grader on that card.

About 10 seconds.

Just have to decide whether it's authentic or a 1.

Do they have MK and ST qualifiers over there too?

And maybe they need to put "evidence of trimming" on the slab too?

So maybe 30 seconds.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by raulus

About 10 seconds.

Just have to decide whether it's authentic or a 1.

Do they have MK and ST qualifiers over there too?

And maybe they need to put "evidence of trimming" on the slab too?

So maybe 30 seconds.

They first need to make sure it is authentic, hopefully.

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[BobbyVCP]

They might me going off VCP showing a Auth value of that card is $3509.71

https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...H?id=114149018

[Lorewalker]

Glad it got resolved. SGC is entitled to their fair grading fees but this feels like a PSA influence to me to charge the $250. If they are using VCP and going after Avg sales prices, that can be misleading. As we all know there are killer looking Auths and then there are some that should be laid to rest. This one is in between and will never sell for 3K. I think the valuation of 2Kish is right.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Glad it got resolved. SGC is entitled to their fair grading fees but this feels like a PSA influence to me to charge the $250. If they are using VCP and going after Avg sales prices, that can be misleading. As we all know there are killer looking Auths and then there are some that should be laid to rest. This one is in between and will never sell for 3K. I think the valuation of 2Kish is right.

I did mention on the phone that it smelled of PSA influence to be so aggressive on an upcharge but was assured that, although they could understand me entertaining that line of thinking, there have not been those kinds of changes made and they are still operating as they historically have been.