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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
(a thread right up Ted Z's alley I believe ) |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: MVSNYC
Joe- i was the under bidder...congrats on a very cool printer's scrap... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Joe, that is a compelling argument. There may well be more cards with that printing flaw... although I can envision that some folks would have thrown them away. We're fortunate these survived, and that you've put "1" and "2" together to suggest 3 on the same sheet. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: robert a
There have been other players found with all colors missing. I believe they all have had sweet cap backs. Wasn't there a baker and griffith a couple of years ago and some others recently? I think Paul t206 collector had one for sale last year. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
with the sweet cap. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Denny Walsh
Joe, Ted & All, I also think You're correct! Great Thread! These are the two that I own'd(Sold them)! It took PSA 4 submissions to get them to slab them both, They didn't know what they were(are!) I remember a Baker also being out there bout two years ago. All with SC backs... Wish I didn't sell them |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Great get Joe....but, I wish the backs were all Piedmont 150....since the only known PLANK with a Piedmont 150 |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: MVSNYC
Joe- no sweat, drinks on me... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: JimB
I sold mine to a lurking board member, but thought I would post scans for this thread. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
Since the Plank is Piedmont - |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Scot Reader
Jim, |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
Looks like the Johnson pitching, not portrait. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Scot Reader
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: robert a
Question for the t206 experts: |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
1. They might have printed the backs first.... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Frank's suggestion is very likely correct..... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
I must chime in and reinforce what Scot Reader posted. There is no-way that a Johnson (pitching) front |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
I agree completely with Ted and Frank. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: barrysloate
Joe- excellent analysis, I like it. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
JOE |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- why would the front/back combination be irrelevant to the printer? |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I don't know this, but I think that by 1909 JB Duke has all of the various cigarette brands we see in the white border cards in his American Tobacco Trust. Someone could try to figure out when Duke bought Piedmont, Sweet Caporal, and the rest... I believe he had them all by mid 1909. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
you say: |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
FRANK |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
The printer's are just contracted to print according to the orders they are given. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
is that the cards were printed over years.... not all at one time. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Scot Reader
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
what about matty dark cap and chase blue background... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Hey guys, before we get too carried away with this, We have to have Jim confirm that his Johnson is INDEED as |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
Ted, |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Your Chase (would have been BLUE) is a Super-Print T206, and among many other backs, exists |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
Ted it definitely is a Chase Blue. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
I'm not sure what you are asking ? |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: robert a
We've seen dozens of printer's scrap with the front printed and no back. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Joe D.
Ted, believe me - I trust your knowledge on the set... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
I have a T206 that's blank on the front with a Piedmont back. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: robert a
Very interesting. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Scot Reader
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I'm thinking about how could there be front printed blank back cards if the backs are printed first.... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: MVSNYC
ted- i was about to say that i thought the opposite, that the fronts were printed first, because we from time to time see blank backs, but never blank fronts (until i just saw your post that you own one)...very interesting... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: MVSNYC
Brian- sorry i have not had a chance to call you back...just been swamped... |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Dave S
If I'm understanding the various super-prints (maybe I'm not), how is this card possible?!?! |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: JimB
Ted and Everybody, |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Your Sheckard is one of the 48 cards in the 460-ONLY Series (the last series of T206's). |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: MVSNYC
guys- the johnson front & back above match each other...study the diagonal crease, it matches. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
I don't see both front and back images of the Johnson....only the back. How are you getting both of them ? |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: Scott B.
Majority of these yellow brown printer scraps have SC460 f30 back. |
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Ted Z - Chase, Matty, and Johnson were on the same printing sheet
Posted By: MVSNYC
ted- JimB's post on may 25th, at 7:00pm has 2 images, johnson pitching front (printer's scrap) and the back. |
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